Dwyers- Got Pics?

[Lin Rhea]

Guys,
     I just recently ordered a Dwyer Dauntless(earlier thread said Defiant but I changed the order), but would like to see some pictures of yours while your shooting it or bow only. I've heard great things about it, but would like to get more familiar. Any comments about perculiarities over other bows are welcome. As I mentioned in the other thread, mine will have Cocobolo riser, Bamboo cores, and Stained Ash limbs. 45# @28, my draw is 29.
     Also, what arrow combo do you use, why, and arrow speed? Thanks, Lin

[NoCams]

HI Lin,
My son has a Dwyer Defiant, bocote, bamboo limbs 60" 52lbs @28. He can shoot the lights out with it and he is only 11. He has had it for a year now. He is pulling about 42lbs on it and shoots the Carbon Express Thunderstorms out of it with 125 tip. Carbon Express has stopped making the Thunderstorm and replaced with the Heritage 90. I think Sipsey River, ( sponsor here ), has them in stock. I think that would make a good arrow for your bow. If you want to shoot a real heavy FOC arrow then you might be able to shoot a Carbon Express Heritage 150 with about 200-250 grains up front and leave them long.

We really like the Dwyer bow it is soooo smooth. His bow feels 10lbs lighter than it is with those long limbs. Great grip too. Dwyer limb tips are a work of art in themselves.

nocams

[Lin Rhea]

NoCams,  
       11 years? What are you feeding that boy?

 I've been practicing with my other bow using 2216's cut to 29 inches and 125g heads. It's also a 45 lb @ 28. I'm planning on using them and having others cut the same. Any idea how much a 29 inch 2216 weighs?
                          Lin

[Starkman]

Lin,
You already know I'm a big Dwyer fan.  According to the Easton charts 2216's weigh 12 gr./inch (348 gr.  arrow + 125 gr tip + 12 gr for fletching + 10 gr insert + 10 gr nock = 505 gr. total or 10.5 gr/lb).    I think your weight is fine (I shoot heavier arrows, some shoot lighter) but your arrows may be stiff for your setup.  My calculations are rough estimates, but hopefully some of the arrow experts could provide more insight.  Most folks add about an inch or more to their draw length to obtain their arrow length, which would put at 30."  You may want to try a 2016 or 2018 and bareshaft tune to give you the best arrow flight.  
Bob

[Lin Rhea]

Bob,
     I went for a walk with my bow and noticed that the arrows are not 2216's, but 2213's. AND they probably are cut to 30, like you say. My draw is 29. It would help if I gave factual information.
                      Lin

[Starkman]

Lin,
That makes a big difference.  2213's are 9.8 gr./inch which should put you about 9.3 gr/lb. you should be okay on spine, but may want to go up a little in weight.  Maybe a littel heavier broadhead/point. I'm not real familiar with 2213's.  Some guys like to go heavier....matter of personal preference.  I'd let you try my 2016's if they weren't too short.
Bob

[Sharpster]

Lin,
what broadheads are you planning to use with your setup?

-Ron

[Lin Rhea]

Ron and Bob,
      I decided to stay with my 2 blade B-52's. They are 125 gr. I'd like to add some weight to them. What do you think? Can I just add bushings? Who makes them? Can I make them close enough making them myself? I do have a small set of scales.
                                      Lin

[Sharpster]

Lin,
The B-52s were made by G5. I spoke to Lou Grace (G5 owner) earlier this year and he said they were out of production but were being re-designed and he expected to start making them again. I'll see him at the ATA show  next month and find out what the scoop is.

-Ron

[Starkman]

Lin,
Yes you can add bushings to increase the weight.  Three Rivers Archery sells them, they look like little washers you place between the insert and broadhead and weigh 5 gr.  You probably have all the materials to make something yourself and perhaps heavier.
Bob

[Lin Rhea]

Ron, Maybe Mr. Grace would like someone to do some field testing. I'll step up and volunteer. Feel free to give him my address.

Bob, I do have some 1/8 bronze, if I can get it punched or cut precision enough. I would want them to be consisitant. I was thinking 30 grains or so for the arrow/BH combination I mentioned above. What do you think?
                           
No pictures?        Lin

[SCATTERSHOT]

Here's a cheap way you can check the effect of adding weight. Pull the bullet from a .22 long rifle round, and bump it up in a vice to fit snugly into your shaft. Epoxy it in right behind the insert for an instant 40 grain weight gain. A lot easier than machining bronze washers, I would say!

Best wishes, and good luck!

[Starkman]

Lin,
Scattershots idea sounds pretty good.  Adding 30-40 grains to a 125 gr. broadhead is what weight I like to shoot.  My Magnus two blades are 160 gr.  Keep in mind that adding that much weight up front will weaken the arrow spine a little.  It may not effect arrow flight at all....just shoot and see.
Bob

[Lin Rhea]

Thanks guys,
              I'll let you know what I come up with. Suggestions are good.  Lin