How many of you shoot a what if arrow?

[d. ward]

I don't want to stray from the ? to much...Shawn is right on.Ted watched 7 of them little SOB's take down a full grown whitetail doe 2 years ago.As she was yarded in 3 feet of snow in the northeast corner of Wa.state.Ripped her to peaces.....while she was still alive.Ranchers run sheep in the Cascade Mountians in the spring.The DNR lets them graze the sheep...According to the ranchers.Whom I guess I believe these guy's cause there in the mountains all spring.Of 2,000 bread yews in a flock they will or should drop 2,000 plus lambs.The loss of lambs,runs sometimes pending on how hard the winter was on the song dogs...as many as 400 of the 2,000 plus lambs become lambs chops...for yotes.I guess they are a little easier to catch then the fawns.But years when they don't run the sheep in an area....fawns and elk calf counts are down,cause they become deer and elk chops....Should have never statred feeding the little son of guns....  one yote shooting mother if I get the chance...bd

[lodestar]

I will occasionally put a little davey brackens trail maker on my arrow and shoot it into my shooting lane that offers the best shot opprotunity. Its worked on several counts for me stopping a deer rite were I want them and also gives me a little bit of confidence in my skills..

[Larry247]

2 coyotes = 6 = 10 and so on. Thats one reason i take a what if arrow.

[Gatekeeper]

Labs4me

I think we have the same point of view on the culling effect.


Shawn

Well... I don’t know if junk is the right word.

I have tried to find some information on the Green County study but I haven’t been successful. Do you know where I can find this study or and article about it. I would like to read it to see what you are talking about and maybe better inform myself on this issue.

What does ENCON stand for? When I do a search using ENCON I don’t find anything pertaining to wildlife.

If you are interested here are some more studies done on the whitetail predation by coyotes issue.

 http://texnat.tamu.edu/symposia/coyote/p20.htm

 http://www.northamericanwhitetail.com/deermanagement/wt_102predators

 http://www.hunterspec.com/Updateable/update_display.cfm?pageID=1796&categoryID=12

[steadman]

Every arrow in my quiver seems to be a "what if" arrow.    But all kidding aside, I always carry a judo or two for those types of shots.

[Dirty Bill]

I think the coyote discussion has been covered,but maybe it needs it's own thread? I always carry an arrow in my bowquiver just in case I want to shoot it at something,whatever it might be.It's good practice.

And I've shot a squirrel or two also while in the woods. I also shoot at small things near the spot where I expect a buck to show,when I ready to leave my stand.

I was able to kill an antelope because of this habit. I was in a windmill stand,and real early in the morning a blue grouse walked by at about twenty yards.

I took a shot at it,but my lower bow limb hit the stand just enough to make me miss,i took a couple of feathers off the grouse.

Later,when the antelope were coming,I knew I had to shoot from my knees,and had to be way on the edge of the stand.

A buck came to drink,and I put a snuffer right behind the shoulder,and the arrow hung up in the off shoulder blade. The blade punched through the bone,then stopped.

I still have the shoulder blade and the grouse feather.

If not for the shot at the grouse,I would have missed the buck.It scored 69 something.

That's why I have a what if arrow.    

[Gatekeeper]

Hi Dirty Bill

Thanks for your concern about the coyote issue. I know that it has gotten off course from the original thread that I started but I don’t mind. That is the way conversations go sometimes. I am finding the conversation to be educational.

Lately I have been carrying practice broadheads in my pack to use for my “what if” shots. I replace the razor sharp broadheads with my practice broadheads when I am going to take a what if shot.

I was ready to draw on a squirrel yesterday but I needed him to step out from behind some brush. Then at the last second another squirrel came into the mix and they started chasing each other around and out of my comfortable shooting range. Afterwards I shot at the place I was anticipating the squirrel to be and hit the mark perfectly. When I got out of the tree I paced the distance off and it was a 30 yard down hill shoot. This made me feel pretty good.

Good shot on the antelope congratulations. I don’t know anything about scoring antelope. Is 69 consider above average?

Tom

[BigCnyn]

I have a quiver full of those.. I See Deer and Elk shots alot and have a ton-o-fun doin it. I spend more time Stumpin than huntin..

[Deadbolt]

i took 2 what if shots today lol...I take as many as it takes to hit my mark.   Sometimes i have an empty quiver come last light but its all practice and practice makes perfect.

[tradtusker]

yip i always take a "what if arrow" i use exactly the same type of arrow i intend to hunt with, take a few shots then stick on a new sharp broadhead and off i go.
if im in a hide i will shoot an arrow if things are slow just to make sure everything is good.