ACS or Bob Lee

[stick hunter]

I have owned adcocks and a a&H they were nice but i LOVE the Bob Lees and own 3 of them i shoot them way better than anything good luck! I must add i have owned nearly 140 bows.

[suttoman]

The comments regarding the grip concern me the most.  I am very pedantic when it comes to the grip.  To me a good bow is 85% grip and the other 15% for the rest of the equation.

I have had some awesome bows but had to ditch them because of the grip.  The only grip that has fitted me like a glove is my new Lee.  Even Dan Toelke made me an awesome bow and put so much into getting the grip right - it is almost there - but not as good as the Lee, which has a standard grip.  Unbelievable!

My problem is that without being able to shoot the ACS I could go thru all the financial and emotional strain just to get something that I had to flog off because of the grip.

I am tempted to heed the advice of so many on here - if it is working, why change it.  However I have been on that list a very long time, and to have my name come up and to finally turn it down is a big deal.

Does OL offer a high-wrist grip option on the wooden riser version?? I am on holiday in Thailand at the moment and the computers here at the internet cafe, don't appear to be able to open his attachments for me to research further?

I wished I lived in America (I could shoot one first)!

Sutto

[JoLo]

One thing that’s also important to me is, in case of an accident, the availability of a new riser or limbs. Here Bob Lee is a clear winner in my eyes.

I have bow-shopped around like many others and found my bow to be a Bob Lee. It’s quiet, fast and forgiving.

John

[gilf]

While I do definately agree that getting a bow that is right for you is the important thing, how do you know what the right bow is for you until you have shot one.

Having said that your location and the cost involved would make it a very expensive experiment. I have the same problem living in England. I already have an A&H ACS and got an email a few days a go saying I was top of the list for another, I'll have already sent my order in as I know what great bows they are.

[centaurshooter]

sutto -- i believe in your situation, you should stick with the lee.  in all reality the last thing you'll need to do is add 10-15 lbs to match the adcock, closer to 2-3 lbs at MOST (see blacky's tests if you don't believe me) match strings and make it an apples to apples comparo and you get all of 3-4 fps more speed with the adcock which is hardly worth the risk in not liking the grip, then again if you don't like it you'll have no problems selling it.  then again it might float your boat, but the lee's have as durable a takedown system as is available and from what i've seen, you will definitely get years more out of the glass bows vs the carbon bows, in a word, 20 years from now you'll shoot the lee and lucky if any carbon bow has not had a compression failure.  if i were you i'd put the money into a short recurve, with the figured bubinga from bob lee.  it's pretty sweet and you and they both know the grip you like.


mark

[George D. Stout]

Stay with the Bob Lee.

[Mr.Magoo]

In TBM's bow reviews, the A&H ACS was 4 fps faster than a Bob Lee one piece maple core recurve (that might temper your performance expectations).

If the Lee shoots well for you, I'd keep it and save my money.

[Bill Turner]

I get the feeling that you want to try what many consider the best bow available. We are not talking about a money difference but a presumed product difference. I don't think you'll be happy until you have one of OL's bows. You'll always wonder about the difference. Keep youur Lee and buy the ACS. If you like it, keep it. If not, you will not lose a lot on the resale. I've been there and done that. Not with an ACS, I've really never wanted one of OL's bows but with a BW. Got one, liked it and kept it. If I had not bought it I would have always wondered. Good luck in your quest.  

[buckeye_hunter]

I'm shooting some of Bob's bows at the K-Zoo expo.  Hope they are everything I expect.  Keep your Lee. I shot a lefty Lee recurve (have not come across a righty yet)and hit the target even though I'm a right handed shooter. His bows have to be pretty decent!

My 2 cents,
-Charlie

[Rick_H]

It seems to me it boils down to how much disposible income you have and how you want to spend it. I'm in the same boat as you in that I have a BL td longbow which I really like, but I just bought an A&H ACS. I'm not a great archer, but at this point I can't tell a big difference between the two for me at least as far as shooting goes. Both grips fit me fine with the BL seeming "bigger". A big difference is the bow weight, with the BL being heavier, the wood ACS feels real "light" to me, something else for you to consider. If you have the only ACS in OZ it probably
wouldn't be that hard to resell if it doesn't work out. Some people enjoy trying bows and then reselling them, while others stick with one, so it depends where you are in the spectrum, but you'll never know unless you try one out. I didn't starve for a month to get an ACS, but I did spend some extra money to get a used one, which I may or may not keep.

My 2 cents,

Rick

[suttoman]

Thanks  for the advice guys - I have decided to let my order slip.  Once again Mark (Centaurshooter) came up with the goodies.

As I said it was so long ago since I placed my order that I had forgotten the technical details of the ACX.  Mark mentioned that they have a carbon limb - and as I remember correctly they do.  I liked them at the time of placing my order - but after all the stuff I have read about carbon limbs, I don't want to spend all that money on something that may or may not go the hard yards.  Thanks for reminding me Mark!!

I know my Lee will do that, and have decided to can the order and stick with the Lee.  

A greater percentage of you also suggested keeping the Lee and canning the  ACX - Sage advice that one may ignore at ones peril.

You may not realise too that the second-hand market for trad bows in Auss is terrible verging on non-existant.  I have got some good bows I just can't sell.  Bows that would be snapped up in the good old USA, but not over here.  We have a very small archery fraternity in Auss - and 90% of them are wheelies.  You can image the small niche market that one would be trying to flog a used ACX to.  Too risky for such an expensive item.

Thanks so much for all the great advice.  I can close the ACX chapter.

Cheers - Sutto