What is Hollywood teaching your children?

[woodchucker]

Just a little background info on myself.....

I have worked for a large commuter rail road here in the northeast for the last 19 years.I was a car inspector (mechanic) and in 1995 while working under a train I suffered a 660 volt electric shock that went up my right arm,across my chest (through my heart) hitting my spine it branched and part exited my left arm,and the other traveled up my spine and out of the top of my head. I was in intensive care for 2 days and out of work for 2 1/2 years. I SHOULD be taking a dirt nap right now!!!!!

Nobody holds hunting more near and dear to thier heart than I do.HOWEVER..... I refuse to live my life in the shadow of political correctness.Unfortunatly hunting will never be the "Socialy Accepted" past time that it once was. Times change,and there is nothing we can do about it.I do NOT purposely offend people,HOWEVER..."WE" just by being hunters offend certain people because of what we do (hunt) and not because of how we act. I personaly don't give a rats a$$ what anyone thinks about me being a hunter. I ALLWAYS act like a complete gentleman in public because that is who I am a gentleman (who hunts). I teach my children to hunt because there is nothing wrong with it,and because it is legal,and it is just plain what we do.I leave the "political" view points out of it.

I'm just curious how do you people explain Abortion Rights,Gay Rights,Anti-War protests to your children????? The other day we drove by an Anti-Abortion protest and my 7 year old son said "People are killing babies?????" How would you explain that?????

I teach my children,I teach them do do what I believe and was raised to believe is right. I leave political views and reasons out of it.Frankly,trying to explain to young children your political reasons for thinking the way that you do will bore the crap out of them.There will be plenty of time in later years for my boys to form thier own political views.

As I have said before,I should be dead right now. THEN who would teach my sons????? If there is one thing that I have learned it is that life is TOO SHORT!!!!!!!!!! You have to learn to live and laugh. This was a very funny cartoon movie and we all enjoyed it very much.The NEXT day we spent practiceing with our bows and talking about getting ready to go HUNTING!!!!!!!!!! and guess what????? I can't see where to movie has bothered them at all.....

[vermonster13]

So Chuck you would take your kids to a cartoon movie about Gays and Abortion so long as it was funny in a tasteful way?

If you weren't here to take your boy to the film and someone else did, think they would explain to him the unreality of the portrayal of hunters in it? Most children as I've said before don't have any exposure to hunting beyond these films/shows. They don't have parents that have had any exposure either. This is the reality of who we are to them, what they see in the media. If we support it with our dollars, then we  are being hypocrits when we speak out against how are image has been degraded by these outlets. We also help encourage more of them.

"Make friends with nature" is the line they are using with the Burger King Kids Meals that have toys from this movie in them. Guess that means hunters aren't friends with nature as far as they're concerned. The fact that we supply all of the money for state fish & wildlife depts, do the managing of the herds/animals and do more for conservation than any other groups accounts for nothing as for these things aren't spoken of in the Mass Media. They would rather have us be the funny, inept, unethical villains in these films.

[woodchucker]

Dave, The answer to your first question is NO!!!!! I wouldn't have the first idea how to explain "Gay" or "Abortion" to my 7 year old.

Question: What is the differance between an activest and a fanatic.....

Answer: None

Political activests and fanatics refuse to either actknowledge or accept that there an "other side" to the issue. Thier way is the only "Right Way".This is the type of thinking that is encouraging poeple to strap themselves with explosives and blow themselves up. (because it is the "Right" thing to do)

I spent 6 years as a Force RECON Marine doing operations all over the world. The first,and most important thing that was taught to me was....."If you want to REALLY know your enemy,you have to BECOME your enemy". You learn to live like him,You learn to think like him,only then can you learn what he is all about.

So far EVEYONE who has posted here has stated thier assumptions and oppinions as to the content of this movie. (and they are all wrong BTW) HOWEVER....."I" am the only person who has gone to see this movie,and therefore "I" am the only person truely in the position to judge this movie. If any of you choose to go and see this movie and you disagree with my viewpoints,then please send me a PM and we can discuss the certain scenes in detail. Who knows,"I" could possibly be wrong,and I am man enough to admit it.

My basic point is our children are much to young to become entangled in the "political fray". It is our job to teach them "right" from "wrong",and you cannot teach them what is "right" without showing them what is "wrong".

Thank You My Friends.....

May The Great Spirit Guide Your Arrows

[vermonster13]

You are in correct in the answer to your very own question. As far as your being the only one having a right to make a judgement on this film, well we disagree there also. It also doesn't appear that anything is sinking in beyond your own immediate needs when it comes to this film, that in itself is a statement to much of what will truly be the threat to huntings future. You continue to change your reasoning and defense of your position, that also tells me some things.

We are allowed our own opinions and choices. We disagree on this one, but I am sure we all agree on much more than we disagree on.

[woodchucker]

Dave, We should get together and go hunting,      

[vermonster13]

I agree. Can't wait for Saturday, opening day is here and so is the St Jude's bow HOpe!

[woodchucker]

Let me know how you make out,I'm going up to the Adirondacks for the weekend.

Good Luck!!!!!

[Talondale]

Well hunters have been bad in Hollywood for a long time.  Bambi, Beauty and the Beast, Rescuers II (poacher actually but seen as the same by Hollywood), Tarzan, etc....  Although these do bother me, as the one sided views of Hollywood often do, I would be less bothered if there were movies that showed the other side as they used to do: Where the Red Fern Grows, The Yearling, and as mentioned Daniel Boone/Davey Crockett.   But that may lead to a bunch of kids trapping/hunting and other generally healthy excercise and we can't have that.

[Ted]

I did a little mini boycott this afternoon.  Cassidy (3 year old) and I were out running some errands.  Cassidy needed lunch and there was a burger king along the trail.  Pulled into the drive-in ordered the burger king version of the happy meal.  After I ordered, I realized that the accompanying toy was an "Open Season" figurine.  When I got to the window, I told the lady working that I was sorry, but I could not accept the order.  I told her that I didn't realize that Burger King was promoting a movie with an anti hunting agenda.  I apologized again for not realizing before I ordered, and drove off.  I don't think she understood what I was talking about, nor do I think that she cared one way or another.  I ended up having to go a bit out of my way, but ended it up at a Diner for some midday pancakes with Cassidy Sunshine.

I know my little boycott did nothing the stem the tide of hollywood anti-hunting sentiment, but it did make me feel good to act in accordance with my beliefs.  Besides, pancakes are Cassidy's favorite food anyways.

. . . then we came home and shot our longbows together and talked about hunting together when she gets bigger.

Ted

[ChuckC]

I don't have to rape someone to have a pretty good picture of what that is and the pain and terror it causes to the victim.  I don't have to steal someones car or kill another person to get a pretty good idea of what that is.  Maybe I don't have first hand experience, but I have enough to make my own decisions.  If I come upon additional information that changes my point of view, I change my decisions.   I haven't made up my mind as to the legitimate (or not) effects this movie may have, but I know for a fact (based upon promos and reviews on this site) that this movie portrays hunters as idiots, fools, liars, cheats.  

This hits home as I just had words with a co-worker who said essentially the same thing to me in a pretty one sided heated arguement.  She was right (and loud) and I was wrong.  Of course, she stated that we were all idiots and dangerous and drunks etc...except for her husband.

Don't for a minute think that people don't buy into this BS.  We are, as a society pulling farther and farther away from the world of nature. I can't stop it, but I am sure not gonna help it !
ChuckC

[vermonster13]

Well Fox will be running a series of anti-trapping ads that are very misinformative. The trsps pictured in the spots are illegal for land use and FOX has been informed of this.

More media manipulation.

[FreedomRules3]

Dianey flicks have always been anti-hunter based . I never used to pay much attention to it, I now conteract the propoganda with my own explanations of why I hunt to the kids   . My daughter has gone with me turkey hunting and loves it.

[Benny Nganabbarru]

Hey fellows, you can make friends with that 300 pound boar...any issues you may have with each other are simply a misunderstanding, and can be overcome with time, patience, love, etc...remember - big, cranky old boars probably just had a sad piglethood, and they just need some nurture to come out of their shell.

It's the same with a wild bull camel, jack donkey or brumby stallion - deep down, they each want to be your friend!

That's what movies teach kids...

Cheers, Ben

[J Osborne]

I agree with what was said that the majority of hunting shows are probably doing more damage to hunting than bambi could ever do.

I also miss the days of role models like Crocket and Boone.  These guys were the type guys that built America, now all our kids have as role models are over paid sports figures.