SW PA deer slaughter ???

[Ray Hammond]

What does that mean, Dale.."they get so much crap from other hunters??????

What can other hunters do to them besides run their mouths? If I let things other people say affect me and what I do I wouldn't ever get anything done in this world.

The do-ers do, and those that are too lazy, or inept, or too foolish to DO- well, they talk a lot!!!

You don't find too many successful folks that worry about what other people say or do- they're usually too busy getting the job done.

Starting a program like this and interacting with the 80% of our population that do not hunt and are not anti hunters yet can have more impact on future votes than all the efforts against the anti's ever will- because the great mass of people in this country, the ones who will vote for or against us, will only know the real story of hunting if we get the chance to tell it to them.

Do something positive, start your own program, and make an impact on those 80%. Save hunting for your grandchildren.

[Steve Kendrot]

Dale said- "There-in lies the true goal- the non-hunting public will decide against bowhunting."

Or for it, as Ray points out. Sounds like an awesome program and I hope I didn't come across as a naysayer. Ray, is your group active on any public lands (parks, etc) or is it all private?

I see Maryland has a SWWM chapter. Is there an national umbrella organization or are these groups springing up indipendently?

[Dale Hajas]

Ray- The local Pittsburgh hunters have trashed the program from the get go. Thru papers, TV news media and of course internet. In fact one state site doesnt even permit discussion of the WMA orgs. It is a pity. After review- this one site does permit WMA threads but with a warning. Here's the link:

 http://www.huntingpa.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/666815/an/0/page/0#Post666815

These orgs have donated thousands of lbs of venison to the food kitchens yet they get trashed. I dont live close enough to belong to the WMA areas- However when I was involved with the NBEF program I did travel there for several years to do 1 day classes.


"Do something positive, start your own program, and make an impact on those 80%. Save hunting for your grandchildren."

As for this comment I will reply to you via PM.

[Dale Hajas]

Ray I went to your site for SWM and you reference the WMA groups in PA. The group in Pittsburgh that I referenced was also SWMPA. Eventually this group split up into 2 groups. Again it's been a few years since I was involved with the NBEF and the management groups. I still have many friends with those groups that I dont get to see.

Steve the political climate in PA right now and especially Pittsburgh is very Liberal. 8 years ago the TV media would never have given these folks the airtime to show their protest. That's due mainly to the success of the whitetail management groups and a testimony to their good work. The political climate has changed.    

When I find my link to these groups I will post it. Dang I cant find it now.....   :mad: