A sad day in The People's Republic of Illinois

[dosbow56]

It's a sad day here in the Heartland. Both the House and the Senate voted in favor of HB3425, Local Deer Population Control. It, in effect, allows a municipality to do a study and petition the IDNR to control the local deer population by means other than hunting. Use your imaginations on this one! Thanks to Vermonster for the heads up on this and to all that contacted thier State Rep. For the other 49 states not YET affected, be vigilant. This SUX bad!  :mad:  
Dave

[geno]

I am very suprised it passed. all the study and trials (shooting does with abortion shots and birth control ect. ) shows it was very costly and does not work. They will be paying a million dollars for sharp shooter in yellowstone, instead of making a million letting the hunters in. Illinios is a lot more liberal. I dont think it would go over as easy in Mo. jmho.

Geno

[vermonster13]

Time to flood the Governors Office with calls and E-Mails. VETO!!!

[Ian johnson]

does this ban deer hunting in Illonois?

[vermonster13]

It makes it possible for towns to vote for non-hunting control measures.

[deertraks]

Originally posted by Ian johnson:
does this ban deer hunting in Illinois?

It's a step in that direction. This is just how they slowly eat away at our privileges a little at a time until there gone.  :mad:

[Jeffrey Wortham]

This might fly in Highland Park where they equate the local white-tail eating the tulips in their garden with Bambi, but I can't see the towns in Central and Southern Illinois jumping on this bandwagon. I think it's very much a liberal Chicago suburb thing.

I'm not even a hunter and I've let my representatives know I am against this. Hopefully we can get it vetoed!

[jonesy]

There ya go freinds and neighbors. I told you it would pass. Makes me sick! I'll never stop huntin! Anyone looking for a good welder/fitter for hire in a state OTHER that IL.like somewhere out west?Jonesy

[Morning Star]

That sucks.  I live on the river, so I hear a bit of the Illinios politics and it's simply amazing at times.  They should just change the name of that State to "Chicago".  A lot of local Iowa folks travel across the river into Illinios so their retirement isn't taxed.  I couldn't swallow all the other crap though, especially the DNR stuff that goes on.

[KodiakBob]

"They will be paying a million dollars for sharp shooter in yellowstone" You need to find out where the funds are going to come from? If from DNR, then your state bowhunters association should hire a lawyer to fight the funding.

[geno]

I cant remember who is paying the bill. Sure I can it is US!! There is some good articles in this months  American Hunter. USFWS had announced to remove the Griz off of the endangered species act in yellowstone. They are being sued by the regulars.   DNR knows how it should be done. In new jersey the Gov. stoped the bear hunts after after DNR told him they needed it. Then he crashed...

[Al Dente]

Sharpshooters cost on average $2,000.00 per day.

Or, local Police, who should be policing the municipality, at either stright time if during their tour, or at overtime if off tour hours.

High fences at 9' and higher, because 8' doesn't cut it, the deer can and do jump over an 8' high fence.

Contraception has been scientifically proven to be INEFFECTIVE in stifling whitetail population growth.  Also, it too is expensive, and it's a two person job, one to dart the doe and the other to hit her with a paintball to "mark" her as treated.  Yeah right, that's a fiasco.

All of the above are options that have been utilized across the country.  Unfortunately, all are at a significant cost to the you, the taxpayer.  The is mismanagement at every level.  State Bowhunting Organizations can and should set up an Urban Deer Managment Program for problem areas.

Bowhunters can do the job, not only safer (than high powered rifles), more ethically (bait and shoot culls), but also for free.

We have several Towns here in NYS, that have benefitted from NYB's Urban Deer Management Program.  They've resulted in drastically lowering the number of deer/vehicle collisions in bith instances.  The Towns are extremely happy with the Program.

The participating bowhunters must pass a proficiency test as well as possess a valid bowhunting license, and adhere to all of the rules, regulations, and guidelines.

Keep fighting the good fight.  Hit the Legislators with facts and figures, not emotions.

All the best, Al.
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[centaurshooter]

well, the fact is illinois is run by chicago, springfield, and the illinois side of saint louis and in fact, those towns make southern california look conservative.  not sure how that happened.  in chicago, where i grew up, i guess it's a union + minority thing giving the dems reign over everything.  not sure what happened though, the rest of state is fairly conservative, but yes, that state is in fact, communist.  had my own legal probs that drove me out of the state for good, and i'm glad.

[Jimbob]

I posted a message about this in the Pow Wow. I dont think that many people check this section regular.

[vermonster13]

Issues like this are a reason folks should check in from time to time.

[wapiti792]

I too live in the PROI. Sad day. I am constantly amazed at how this state runs itself. Everything is run through Chicago, and even though we live in a whole different country (So Illinois), what they do upstream has some effect on us. What happens to all of that money that folks spend on out-of-state deer tags (runs close to $300 bucks now)? It gets porkbarreled other places, and now some will go to some misguided project to protect some city boy's lawn. I say send us in coach, we're ready to play...'bunch tradgangers in full regalia invading Mr and Mrs Yuppie's neighborhood to kill and eat the ctitters causing all the harm. I'm ready, just let me know...

[Interseptor]

Centaurshooter,
I take issue with your minority statement!  This is an issue that affects any hunter regardless of race. And Yes, their are minority sportsmen who are just as P.O. about this as you! And don't be so quick to just believe that its always the Dems.  I've been surprised to see a lot of Repub names on some of this anti-hunting legislation that has been popping up. Look at what is going on in New Jersey right now.  Repubs and Dems are part of a comitee that could shift the control of the DNR to the antis.  I've got a lot of hunting buddies in the Carolinas, Georgia, and Alabama that would take isue with your minority remark.

[vermonster13]

There are members of both political parties that would see our way of life end, neither has the market cornered. Some of the Republicans who are running for President this time would be as bad for us as some of the Democrats. You really need to know a politicians voting history more than their party these days.

[Tom D]

I agree with Vermonster on this statement! In the polls I answered on the last election I tried to tell them I voted for the Person and their views and not the Party they were representing. The Pollsters had a hard time understanding that?

TomD

[Scarne]

This isn't necessarily a bad thing.  Sometimes you have to let the powers that be spend themselves into oblivion on do gooder programs that never work.  Then you move in with the solution that benifits the herd and the community.  Till then you are voiceless.

Once the tax payers see what it costs vs what could have been generated by allowing limited hunting opportunities for thier own community their is opportuniy for us.

I know I know what about the current reports and DNR experts etc. etc.  Every liberal do gooder always thinks that they have all the answers the previous liberal do gooder didn't have.  The counties will bleed "green dollars" and get nowhere.  Just be patient.  Wait for the opportunity.

Now I'm no lawyer.....

But the question now is who is ultimately responsible for the deer heard?  The county or the state?  If the counties are and they do not resolve thier own problem (do gooders seldom  reslove any emotional issue) it may well be that the legal impact of deer car collisions falls on the county.  

The state has programs that guarantee a reduction in deer numbers and can be proven(hunting).  The counties will have a difficult time proving reduction in deer numbers without a carcass.  Sounds like potential legal problems to me.  Ouch, says the tax payer.

McHenry county has had hunting programs in thier forest preseves for the past 4/5 years and are generating revenue and providing opportunities for the local residents.  So far it seems to be very well recieved.

As I understand it, this took place after the taxpayers figured out that it costs way to much to pay sharpshooters and that deer eat way too much of thier precious plants.  

-Scarne