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Author Topic: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?  (Read 3888 times)

Offline Steve H.

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Re: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?
« Reply #100 on: January 22, 2008, 05:05:00 PM »
Nate,

How many WY moose points do you have?

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Re: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?
« Reply #101 on: January 23, 2008, 12:28:00 AM »
I have 5 moose points.  Right on the bubble of giving it up or staying with it.  I could draw the areas I want within the next 3 years.  Assuming tag numbers stay the same.  Moose just isn't a huge priority for me right now.  I just did it because it was only $7.  I think the tag is around $1800 right now, and honestly I would rather put that towards a caribou hunt, my other major hunting dream.  I just got my latest Bowhunting Safari Consultants catalog and the Caribou hunts really jumped this year.  I don't want that to get out of reach too.

I would probably regret giving up the moose thing though.

Any thoughts Steve?

Nathan

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Re: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?
« Reply #102 on: January 23, 2008, 06:26:00 AM »
Nate,

 I wouldn't give up on the moose either. Been on a couple of caribou hunts and they can be feast or famine. Both of mine were more of the famine variety. Had a friend that went to Quebec five times before he had a reasonable opportunity with a bow. Also, most caribou hunts can be done later in life when one might be in a better position to afford it.
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Re: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?
« Reply #103 on: January 23, 2008, 08:22:00 AM »
This has sure been an interesting thread to follow with many different ideas and thoughts on what to do.  What I really see underlying everything though is that these tags and the applications for them are really tickets to dream.  And if you are lucky and/or persistent enough, you can actually make your dreams come true eventually.

My wife buys a lottery ticket once in a while when the jackpot gets really high.  I don't think she really thinks that someday she will hit it and we will be rich.  But she does seem to get some enjoyment just from being able to dream about what it would be like to win.

I prefer to put my money into hunting tag applications.  I stand a much better chance of being a winner in one of those, and for me, the dreams themselves partly justify the costs.  I wish I would have entered more States earlier, but I look at it as both an investment in future hunts and a chance to dream in the meantime.

Jacks investment of $10,000 sounds crazy at first glance, but if all but a few hundred is refundable is not quite as bad.  Most of us won't go anywhere near that extreme, but to put out 2 or 3 thousand knowing most of it comes back can be possible.  

I'm a banker, and I have seen the trouble people get in with credit cards, so don't take this wrong.  But if you had one card that you used only for tag applications, paid the interest on the money while the Game & Fish departments held onto it, it might cost you a hundred or two each year in interest to play that game.  The key is to make sure to pay the balances off when the refunds come back.  If you don't think you will do that, don't even try this game.

It all boils down to how bad do you want to do it.  Like Ray said, I'm glad not everyone does, because the fewer people in the better my chances.  But if things like this are important and you really want to do it someday, don't sit around thinking you will do it when you get older.  It takes time, planning, money, and persistance to make your dreams happen.
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Offline Steve H.

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Re: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?
« Reply #104 on: January 23, 2008, 03:27:00 PM »
I think you have too many moose points to give up.

My wife use to live in WY and has many points, I sure wish she could give them to me!

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Re: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?
« Reply #105 on: January 23, 2008, 09:17:00 PM »
I have been buying the $7 sheep and moose points since they began offering them.  I wrassled with this issue last year and elected to get out of the game and let my sheep points go.  I am 51 and don't know if I would be able to hunt sheep in another 10 years. There are probably a lot of people like me and that will benefit the younger point chasers like yourself.  I am keeping up with the moose though.   I have given up on sheep.  It was an ego thing for me and as I get older I have less of that to cloud my judgement. I would rather be able to retire early and do more of what I enjoy most, hunting elk, antelope, mule deer and bears in Wyoming. If the stars align and depending on Berkshire Hathaway returns I should be a Wyoming resident in 6-8 years.  I should be able to draw a good moose tag  by then.  My dream is to take my own packstring into the thorofare and hunt elk where Teddy Roosevelt did.  The state of Wyoming says I can't do that unless I am a state resident or have a resident guide hold my hand.  I have my priorities and with only mild regret they don't include sheep.  Your priorities may change as you get older.  I spent the weekend in Sundance Wyoming looking at real estate for my retirement villa, getting ready to make it happen.  Good luck on that sheep hunt.

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Offline Steve Kendrot

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Re: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?
« Reply #106 on: January 23, 2008, 10:09:00 PM »
I think you could kill a lot of elk, moose, deer and other cool critters, (like sika deer with your buddy Tim in Maryland) for 10K. Never really had the urge to kill sheep for the money it costs. But a dream is a dream...

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Re: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?
« Reply #107 on: January 23, 2008, 10:53:00 PM »
Steve K.,

You know something I don't know.  Tell Tim he doesn't call me enough!

Yeah, I will probably stay in the moose game one more year and see what life brings.  I could probably draw the area I want in about 3 years.

Nathan

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Re: Giving Up a Dream, What to do?
« Reply #108 on: January 24, 2008, 02:01:00 PM »
Nate,

Sika deer provide a really unique hunt. You really should take advantage of the opportunity Tim provides on the eastern shore. (I work with him) We've got places to take you if you hadn't thought about it...

I'll give him the message.

Steve

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