Pete, Thanks for the input. That was a good thought and someone ran that trail but it was not him, The guy I got it from said about 20 years ago knives were given to employees where his dad worked. He said the knives were by a maker in Arkansas. So I contacted the knife maker guild there. He also thought that it might be a Welling knife even though Mr. Welling does not live in AR. He had to send photos as Mr. Welling does not use high tech. So he and I are about on the same skill level on Computers. Mr. Welling said it was not his. That is as far as I have gotten. There is a lot of experience here on Trad Gang so I thought someone might recognize it. It is obvious an experienced craftsman. Thanks again.