Risers?

[D.A. Davis]

I got a question on riser construction.  I've noticed on this, and other boards, that most of the bows are built with laminates and glass on both sides of the fadeouts, but there are some bows that are built with the entire limb construction as one piece and the riser added to the belly of the limb assembly.  There are no fadeouts on these bows.  What are the pros and cons of both types?

[lostshot]

Good  question I would like to hear some ideas on this also.

[shaft slinger]

I dont know if there is a plus or minus to eather, But if you glue the riser to the belly of the limb stack with out a 'fade" of some kind in the stack you risk the handle or riser popping off, if every thing is not perfect.
    If the riser has "fades" on the end and half or some of the stack on each side you will have the riser trapped, between SOME of the stack and a much stronger in the riser section. IMO

[kennym]

Hey D A,
 I like to put a thin riser pc in the layup and add large overlays for the handle myself. At least 3/4 to 1" thick in the stack and whatever you need for handle as overlays.

You gotta have fades IMO to keep from bending thru handle and popping the grip overlays(or riser) off. JMHO

Ummm,look at Hornes bows,or Dryads(I think)

[2treks]

D.A. are you talking about wood bows? most glass bows will have a fadeout. I can't think of one that does not. wood bows are a bit different tho. they can be built with a bending handle with little or no handle section, some native bows are good examples of this. A typical self bow or all wood composite will have a fadout are. this is at the ends of the handle section and help to terminate the force of the bending limb. This can be a small thin "riser" glued up between the backing and belly lams with Thick overlays or handle build ups put on, such as dryad and a few others. Or just the thicker portion of handle left on for a self bow. They all will be a fade out when blended into the belly wood. Just a few examples.
Clear as mud eh?
  Chuck

[kennym]

Here is an example of what I was thinkin....


 http://www.hornesarchery.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=7&pic=0&products_image_large_additional=images/hornes/longbow-brushbow_02.jpg

[lostshot]

I think D.A. means that some long bows that we've seen do laminate the riser part of the bow on the belly of the lamb core. the handle DOES have fade outs but are not in the total layup of the bow during construction. The example that kennym gives is the right idea but at least has some part of the handle and fades in the lambs. Some bows have the whole handles on the belly and out side the lambs. Any advantages?