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Offline Lee Lobbestael

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hog huntin
« on: November 03, 2009, 12:15:00 PM »
Hey guys i'm going hog hunting in Texas in January and plan on using a hackberry self bow i have just started. The owner of the ranch is a little sceptical of the lethality of a home made long bow. I have never been hog hunting. What poundage of bow do I need to make to prove him wrong? I can comfortably shoot sixty

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 03:08:00 PM »
If You can shoot 60 make a 60# bow. I wouldn't go under 50#.

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 03:16:00 PM »
I think you should worry more about the arrow you're going to shoot then the bow.
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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 04:41:00 PM »
Killin stuff, do you mean that I should be shooting at least ten grains per pound of bow weight?

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 04:54:00 PM »
Yes!
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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 05:07:00 PM »
If you have never hunted hogs before make sure you study the kill zone, it's not where many folks thinks it is.

Most North American critters you want to hit behind the shoulder but with hogs all your goodies are very small (even on a big hog) and right behind, as in covered by, the shoulder of a perfect broadside animal.

Check out the webpage below.

 http://www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html

If you are familiar with the beast please accept my apologies for assumin you ain't.
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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 06:37:00 PM »
Stick em with one of those pieces of cane I sent ya. Good luck on the hunt. Paul<><
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Offline Lee Lobbestael

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 07:28:00 PM »
Thanks guys! I'm I aim to do just that Kodiakkid! you guys are kind of making me nervous tho! they are starting to sound more and more like rhinos!

Offline Lee Lobbestael

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 07:39:00 PM »
Hey guys I'm lookin at kill zone pictures of hogs and I see that to hit lungs you have to hit em right inline with the front leg. Is this gonna hit bone? do I need to take a quartering away shot?

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 08:06:00 PM »
If you look at the photo's in sequence, you can see the skinned photo showing the shoulder muscle. the next photo shows the meat cut away from the bone. The bone is in front of the kill zone. If you put an arrow through the meat of the shoulder or a little behind it you should still hit the boiler room. That being said I have never shot a pig, I just dream of doing it, hence my screen name.
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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 03:59:00 AM »
Hitting a hog in the kill zone your GOING to hit the from leg and have to blow thru it. ALL hogs i have shot with a bow have been in the top of the front leg OR right behind the ear/neck. Both will shut a hog down pretty quick.... sometimes instantly - other times within a reasonable distance.

Draw weight.... depends on the hog. here in east texas we have eating hogs of under 140 pounds, hunting hogs of 140 to 300# and monsters of 300 pound plus..... I have seen very few over 400 and none over 550 pounds. If your trophy hunting and want a big hog with big cutters - bring a bow with as much draw weight you can accurately shoot at 30 yards quickly - id recommend 50 to 60 pounds. Make your arrows heavy - 10gpp with SHARP broad heads.

If your hunting public lands - your NOT going to be allowed a sidearm or gun in most cases. If your guided hunting - it will depend on your guide and area. If your private land hunting - someone needs to carry a gun OR have a catch dog with a few kerr dogs (if your going for a LARGE hog)

Hogs out here are very well known for taking a shot and not dying fast, the wound seems to seal itself and the hog will run and die elsewhere. In january it is not hot so the hogs will be able to run fast and far before having to stop (they don't sweat and will not overheat in winter). Big boars will tend to fight if shot - don't matter if its vital or not.

The stories of javalina's DO NOT apply in feral hogs - they do not gang up on you, if fact they will run away from you if shot at or spooked. I have seen two hog turn to fight - one after being shot, the other after being spooked. Both were large boars. Sows will run over their own young to flee.

The good news is this however.... a large 300+ boar with cutters will be very hard pressed to cut you as the cutters are large and turned in, not saying he can't cut ya, but he will be hard pressed to do it - they do bite however!. The killer hog boars are the 150 to about 250 pounders that have small cutters that are turned out and those suckers will head swipe you and cut you deep, bite and run you over if they get the mind to - its very rare however.....

During the spring we dog hunt hogs and after the catch dog shuts them down we go in with hands and drag the hog out by the rear legs, so they are really not all that scary as long as you have them shut down and stay away from the head - a hog can not turn its head and bite you, they have to turn the body to face you, they can spin on a dime however, but again will flee over fighting.

Just carry a 50+ pound bow, SHARP SHARP SHARP broadheads and take your time on the shot.... Honestly getting within a bow shot of one is the hard part.


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Small eatter hog taken with a shop built R/D laminate bow of about 40#... shot twice at 35 yards as it came across my back yard one morning.

 

Offline Lee Lobbestael

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2009, 08:53:00 AM »
Thanks guys! I'm not really worried about killing a trophy as its my first hog hunt. So if i hit a decent hog right above the elbow with a sharp broadhead, i should penatrate through the upper led muscle and into the bread basket right? I just don't want to make an unethical shot on a hog especially on someone elses land.

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2009, 10:33:00 AM »
As shown in the excellent photos, the kill zone is small and tucked tight to the elbow. Hit the bottom 1/3 and right above the front leg/body joint and they won't go far. Broadside or slightly quartering are best. You can't hit a hog too low as the heart lays right on the bottom of the rib cage.

In Texas the hog is a pest. They feel there is no such thing as unethical hog shooting. They use snares, dogs, baiting, guns from the back of pick up trucks and helicopters, night hunting, etc. Your own standards of fair play are all you need to worry about. With patience you can get real close. It is not uncommon to have shots at 10 yards or less.

50# bow with heavy arrow and very sharp 2 blade will be plenty with good shooting.

My set up for this winter on a ranch with some real BIG hogs is 59# osage self bow and 730grn carbon arrows (200 Ace heads, 125 steel adapters, and 55/75 GT). Looking for a monster this season.

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2009, 12:30:00 PM »
Amen Shaun - a few weeks ago - a gas mule, two .22's at 11pm..... 3 hogs dead  :)  that land owner happy.

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2009, 05:38:00 PM »
You can't kill enough of these texas hogs. They are truely a nuesance but fun to hunt. They breed every 3 months 3 weeks and three days I've heard.

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Re: hog huntin
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2009, 10:29:00 PM »
Have never met a hog that any bow 50# and up couldn't dispatch without a problem. Unless of course I missed!   :rolleyes:

I've taken upwards of 300 hogs over the past 40 years with both bow and guns, and can only remember 3 ever turning and charging me after being shot.
And I believe all 3 charges occurred because they didn't really have any other direction to run. It's been my experience that they will normally run away from the danger unless that option doesn't exist.

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