« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Glue  (Read 456 times)

Offline TheFatboy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 649
Glue
« on: March 17, 2010, 05:38:00 AM »
So, I've ordered some combed flax to help reinforce a few weak areas on my upcoming yew branch bows. I was about to order some Titebond, and figured that Titebond III would be the best choice. But I remember reading in TBB1, that hide glue is the best choice for gluing flax and other such fibrous backings.

What would be the best choice? Titebond III or Titebond Hide Glue?
Logged
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

Offline TheFatboy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 649
Re: Glue
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 09:21:00 AM »
BUMP  :)
Logged
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

Offline bjansen

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 2263
Re: Glue
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 09:55:00 AM »
Titebond 3, I dont think Titebond's brown bottle of "Hide Glue" is as good as actual Hide glue.
Logged

Offline Silent Bear

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 144
Re: Glue
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 11:48:00 AM »
Titebond hide glue is not waht you want, I would suggest buying some hide glue from 3 rivers or anywhere else that supplies it, the best hide glue that I have used is homeade from sinew scraps and pine pitch
Logged
When a man speaks of truth he has nothing to hide. - Silent Bear

When a man moves away from nature his heart becomes hard. - Lakota

When we show our respect for other living things, they respond with respect for us. - Arapaho

Offline frank bullitt

  • Contributing Member
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • ****
  • Posts: 2417
Re: Glue
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 12:14:00 PM »
Titebond would be the easiest to get, and should work fine. I have hide glue and would use that, myself. As for the liquid hideglue, it would work fine also, but tends to take alittle longer to dry. Also most places that carry it, don't realize it has a short shelf life, check the date on the bottle!

If I remember right, Jay Massey had wrote you could add like vinegar to speed the drying!
Logged

Offline TheFatboy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 649
Re: Glue
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2010, 04:09:00 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I think I will try out the Titebond 3 then!

This is the first time I'm gluing anything to a bow though, so I'm pretty lost, to say the least. I have no idea how to prepare the glue, and all those things.

Should I warm up the glue, dip the flax fibres, squeeze out the excess glue, apply a layer on the bow and comb it out? Or is it not necessary to warm the glue first? Any advice is appreciated right now  :readit:
Logged
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

Offline frank bullitt

  • Contributing Member
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • ****
  • Posts: 2417
Re: Glue
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2010, 01:06:00 PM »
Andreas, you can thin the glue down some with water, brush it on,maybe give a couple coats to the wood. Then dip the fibers in the same bowl of glue, and do like you mention. Kinda of the way I apply sinew. Should work good!
Logged

Offline TheFatboy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 649
Re: Glue
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2010, 01:33:00 PM »
That doesn't sound too hard! Thank you Frank  :archer:
Logged
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

Offline walkabout

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1057
Re: Glue
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2010, 01:59:00 PM »
just brush on a thin coat of the glue to the back of the bow first and let it dry to size it, this will help ensure that the wood wont soak up too much moisture in the glue up of the backing material.
Logged
Richard

Offline TheFatboy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 649
Re: Glue
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2010, 03:55:00 AM »
Sounds logical. I will do that then.

Thanks for the input  :)
Logged
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

Offline Tree man

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 428
Re: Glue
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2010, 03:25:00 PM »
Hide glue makes good, strong, flexible bond.......but it is water soluble. Titebond III makes a good, strong, flexible bond .......and it is WATERPROOF. I'm glad I know how to make hide glue....but very thankful that I can buy and use TBIII. It is BETTER!
Logged

Offline frank bullitt

  • Contributing Member
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • ****
  • Posts: 2417
Re: Glue
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2010, 08:15:00 PM »
Hey Justin, do you use TB3 for a finish, then?

With hide glue or any glue, I stll use a finish over it. None of them are waterproof! They still will breath.
Logged

Offline walkabout

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1057
Re: Glue
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2010, 09:16:00 PM »
i have to agree, even though titebond says its waterproof it probably does breath a little bit. if you think about it when you glue something up it has to dry on the inside somehow, and the outside edges of glue dry the quickest. so logically the glue probably allows some moisture to escape/ enter, although the bond will still remain strong.
Logged
Richard

Offline TheFatboy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 649
Re: Glue
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2010, 03:25:00 AM »
I've also been considering cherry bark backing. I have a lot of cherry bark which has dried for some time now. But I guess nothing prevents me from backing one with flax and one with cherry bark  :goldtooth:
Logged
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

Offline walkabout

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1057
Re: Glue
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2010, 10:59:00 AM »
there ya go. im currently working on a dyed burlap backing for my sisters bow, its gonna be purple and black striped. kinda time consuming because i have to dye a few inches at a time with one color, then repeat with the other but im sure shell love the end product. i might have to round up some birch bark to try as a backing some day to see how that works. anyway post some pics when ya get the flax done, i think ive only seen one bow backed with it before.
Logged
Richard

Offline TheFatboy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 649
Re: Glue
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2010, 11:26:00 AM »
I ain't gonna back in entirely with flax, only reinforce weak spots. Apparently, flax does not stretch very well, so a full flax backing would probably overpower the belly.
Logged
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

Offline walkabout

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1057
Re: Glue
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2010, 01:11:00 PM »
lol my bad. id still be interested in seeing your method though, i posted a topic not long ago about patching bad spots and this is somewhere along those lines.
Logged
Richard

Offline TheFatboy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 649
Re: Glue
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2010, 04:22:00 AM »
I'll be sure to post pictures of the results. Expect no miracles, I am merely a rookie!
Logged
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »

Users currently browsing this topic:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
 

Contact Us | Trad Gang.com © | User Agreement

Copyright 2003 thru 2024 ~ Trad Gang.com ©