I made a Cratemyrtle self bow, I heat treated as experiment, having never done it before, and figured it was just a sapling from a trash pile that I wasted if I screwed it up. I put one tip on my kitchen island and the other tip on the counter, pulled it into reflex by hand and held the gun with the other hand. I need to get some jigs built. Long story short, it took some reflex and toasted the belly till black. I noticed an immediate jump in weight. (I didn't know about letting it rehydrate, fortunately nothing bad happened.) I tillered off the black part, and for a relatively light weight, whitewood, the bow turned out to be a pleasant surprise.