how to make reflex and deflex bows

[UnderControl16]

So i am looking into getting into making bows with reflex and/or deflex either in "selfbows" or in laminates. I was wondering how people go about it and what is also required to make one/how to make the jigs needed. I have been making longbows for two years and shooting for that long so i know that stuff and have the required to make longbows but want to expand now.
Thanks Mo  

[Pat B]

Mo, go to Binghamsprojects.com They have all you need to know to get started. Then come back here and get the "professional secrets" from some of the best!

[walkabout]

if you have luck making selfbows you could make a caul to heat in the reflex/deflex.

[Shakes.602]

Dean Torges is another Fine Bowyer You should Check out!! "Hunting the Bamboo Backed Bow" is an Excellent source of this Great Mans Ideas and Processes!! Money Well Spent!!

[UnderControl16]

Thanks Pat.
Sorry what is a Caul?

[walkabout]

a caul is basically a form which is used to bend reflex and/or deflex into a bow stave while using a heat gun or other heat method. if you do a search for the word"caul" youll come up with some good examples.

[John Cooper]

I haven't seen many selfbows with a deflex/reflex profile, but reflexing a stave is a good way to add some early draw weight and increase performance.  The d/r profile can be glued in pretty easily using a form like this:
   

You spread glue on both sides of the lamination, wrap it in strips of junk bike innertubes, and just clamp it to the form at mid-limb.  You don't need the spring clamps or the c-clamps at the tips. (hindsight!)

~John

[John Cooper]

oh, and Dean Torges' "Hunting the...." video is a GREAT one to watch.

[Robertfishes]

I made this form using a template I got from KennyM    

[UnderControl16]

robert i know i alot of people use water pressure to keep the glued pieces togather. how do you get that pressure?

[Robertfishes]

I'm using a 1 1/2" firehose with milled aluminum end plugs from Binghams, one end has a metal valve stem(like a truck tire) that I slowly add 65psi of AIR pressure to, takes about 5 minutes?. I start off with a bike pump and slowly add air, when I hit about 55psi I stop using the hand pump.. I use my air compressor and take it up to 65psi, then form goes into oven...

[Robertfishes]

if you look at the end of the fire hose you can see the hose clamps holding the plugs in place, plugs are slightly hourglass shaped..