how do YOU...

[hova]

ok ,so i was makin myself a new string for my shorty , and was doing the normal flemish twist. my problem with this is that i can only ever get one end to work into the nice taper . i have tried tricks i used to use for furled leaders , i have tried snaking the plies through for the second loop , and nothing works nicely.


then i googled it , and came across a post on PA , showing a youNoob video , of an aussie making a flemish. he basically did the loop on one side like i normally do , then he went to the other end and made another on the opposite end. this had never crossed my mind , and i always just did one loop , and twisted the rest together. ii have used knots , and even crude serving on the finish end , and they look like crap but hold fine.


so how do you do it? do you just make a loop in one end and use a knot  , or do like the aussie guy did , and do loops at each end , then twist the string...or some other way?


pics would be nice if its an unusual method. i might have to try working on another once the wife and kid gets home , using the aussie's method , but im still stuck using Artificial sinew for my strings. they have worked fine so far , but i know they stretch like crazy. the one on my stickbow is twisted so tight i couldnt hardly get it apart to put silencing yarn in , so i know thats part of the reason it stretches , but what do you guys do for your strings...


and no , im not using a jig. i just eyeballs it. i do have some spare framing lumber that i could if need be. im fresh out (ie:never) of dacron.


-hov

[vanillabear?]

[Roy from Pa]

I make the first loop and continue to twist about 6 times past the last tag end, then put a clamp on it to hold it together. Then do the other end of the bundles the same way. Then I place one loop over a small post, nail, etc to hold it and pull the string tight. Then twist it counter clockwise to twist up the string. You need to get or make a string jig. I believe on Three Rivers, there are videos of making a flemish string. They also sell videos. But You Tube.com has a lot of good videos. Just do a search and you will see.

[Pat B]

I do a loop and a bowyers knot.

[AKmud]

I loop both ends before twisting it up.  If you twist it first, I don't know how you would make a good second loop since the bundles need to be separated to make the loop.....

[don s]

i splice a loop at both ends. i guess like the aussie does. for a tillering string i splice a loop at one end and a bowyer knot on the other end. this way the tiller string will work for different length bows. i use a jig now. in the beginning i worked without the jig.
                                    don

[hova]

i havent had any issues without the jig , i was just curious about that. my tapers are good even without the jig. i just eyeball the length and cut the ends a little off.

i guess i have been using a tillering  string , and just never realized it. the one i originally saw showed making it like a rope with a single taper on the starting end , then weaving the other end through itself...

ill have to give a shot to doing loops on both ends , and just twisting. maybe that would help me from having so much trouble with stretch...


thanks guys!
-hov

[George Tsoukalas]

I a a double looper.    Jawge

[Roy from Pa]

I don't like the bowyers knot. I feel it's too thick around the bows string grooves, but that's just me. Plus it seems to slip on me, so I have to do 3 loops on it which makes it even thicker. Nothing wrong with it though, fine knot.

[NTD]

I do both, depends on how lazy I feel when I make the string.  

[John Lipinski]

two loops. It took me two tries before I got my first functional flemish string. Still, I like the endless loop string jig I made because I'm consistent with it--the length I want is the length I get. That said, I did have a flemish on my bow until it snapped on me.

[don s]

i had one string break on me. it was an endless. it had nothing to do with the string. it was my string grooves. they were not sanded smooth enough and the string was cut. i read somewhere to take knee highs and pull them thru your grooves. if they are smooth enough they will slide nicely. if not, they snag. it works.
                                          don

[hova]

youre trying to get the fbi to check me out now. nylons , hide glue and a big friggin drawknife...yeah...


good idea tho

-hov