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Offline Scotty45

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Form, glue up question
« on: March 29, 2013, 07:19:00 PM »
Hi guys, I'm new here and love the site and information you guys provide.
I have made several board bows and self bows, but I am new to fiberglass lam bows. I getting ready to glue up my third 62" Hybrid from Binghams. I am using the fire hose press method.
Here is the problem, while slowly pressurizing the form, the riser is sliding about a quarter inch towards the limb tip and it leaves a small depression in the one fade. This happened on both glue-ups. I am using washers on the side of the form to prevent side to side movement and not sure what to do with this problem.  
Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Scott

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Re: Form, glue up question
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 08:00:00 PM »


Here's a simple clamp made from some flat steel and a couple bolts. Works like a charm.  :bigsmyl:  Bob
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Re: Form, glue up question
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2013, 09:02:00 PM »
I have been taping mine in over the center and both fades and have not had any riser movement.
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Re: Form, glue up question
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2013, 09:45:00 PM »
That's what I do. Tape over the center of the riser then pull the lams down at the fadeouts with 3/4" strapping tape. Then I put plastic wrap over the whole thing, then metal pressure strips, then tape it again real good. I don't have any problems, but I know guys who drill and pin the form and bow pieces so nothing can shift on them.

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Re: Form, glue up question
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2013, 10:21:00 PM »
I like what Canadabowyer is doing, simple and effective. Like Hill Hunter and Bowjunkie I have been using straping tape, but I first use a bar clamp to hold the riser in place, then once all lams and pressure strips are in place I tape the riser and lams down with fiber strapping tape. I think I'm gonna copy what CanadaBowyer is doing..I think Crooked Stic also has a similar system

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Re: Form, glue up question
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2013, 10:44:00 PM »
I tape em, but like Robert, I bar clamp it til taped well. But I really like the look of the deal Bob has going there!
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Re: Form, glue up question
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2013, 11:00:00 PM »
I have been taping the riser center and fades, but apparently not good enough. I think I will try the clamping method, either through the form or bar clamp. Thank you for the suggestions and help.
Scott

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Re: Form, glue up question
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2013, 11:47:00 PM »
you got to pull down hard on the tape..I break or cut it all the time on the metal pressure strip..3 or 4 years ago I bought the Jack Harrison book and he also used a system like CanadaBowyer

Offline east_tx_pineknot

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Re: Form, glue up question
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2013, 08:53:00 AM »
The method that CB has going on there, looks really good!  I'm going to have to adopt that into my process.  I use tape also, but not the filament tape that Bingham promotes.  I use black electricians tape.  I can really pull everything together and it doesn't break like the filament stuff.

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Re: Form, glue up question
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2013, 11:42:00 AM »
If the riser is sliding to the same tip each time then the deepest part of your form may be a bit off center. Other wise that strap clamp will work fine.
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