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Index pin to avoid slipping
« on: April 10, 2014, 04:33:00 AM »
I use a form with rubber band clamping and i seem to have a lot of problem with the riser block slipping. Lams and sideways slipping is usually not a problem. I want to use a thicker riser block that sticks out to the opposite side of the window. Rubber bands would slide it to the middle. So i'm thinking of using a index pin to keep everything in place. I would dry clamp everything to the form and drill a hole where the sight window would be and use a toothpick as a pin.
Opinions and ideas about this plan?

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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 08:29:00 AM »
I've never tried it myself.

I know of one guy that does what sounds very similar when making all wood bows.

He uses toothpicks as a pin.
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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2014, 08:44:00 AM »
I drill two holes in the center of the handle where the leather grip will cover the holes. I space the holes about 2 inches apart to keep the lams from shifting side to side lengthwise. I insert a tooth pick in each hole.

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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2014, 09:04:00 AM »
i did the same, on my last glass bow- learnt it from the smart ol' bugger above.
also had a riser slip on me, used only one pin though, maybe next time i will use two!!
 and my overlay goes over the hole-i drilled it right in the middle of the handle- so there was no chance of exposing anything when i shaped the handle,
 made everything so easy!!

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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 09:08:00 AM »
I did this for the first time on the hickory baked lemonwood bow I recently built and it worked great. I did it similar to how Roy does.
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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2014, 02:23:00 PM »
I will use pins when gluing up risers with lots of accents or a complicated design.  I just drill them in places where overlays will cover later, or where they'll get cut out when shaping the riser.  Works great.
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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 03:35:00 PM »
Sweet! Nice to know, i'm on the right track!
I wasn't planning on using an overlay on the next build. But i have some leftover piece of black glass, so it will be unnoticeable.

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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2014, 04:05:00 PM »
Im tryin to figure how to best do that without drilling through the bamboo back... Since im not planning on wrapping with leather.... Wood to pretty.

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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2014, 05:08:00 PM »
a block of wood with a guide hole drilled through it- place it on the bamboo- drill a hole- not all the way thru- place it on the riser- drill as deep as you need.
so now the holes will line up- kinda like a mini binghams drilling jig!

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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2014, 04:50:00 PM »
the pin hole here is for a 4d nail ground to a long taper on both ends and waxed--passes trough glass and all lams and 3/8" into the riser-other end into the form---
 
echatham--maybe you can plan it so a thin overlay  hides the hole
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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2014, 06:09:00 PM »
what wood is that??????????

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Re: Index pin to avoid slipping
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2014, 06:53:00 PM »
spalted cherry--wicked huh!!!I got it it from fellow ganger sharp shooter

here's another view with the grip installed--
 

any ideas what the I-beam wood is??[very dense/slightest hints of red]
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