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Offline BenM

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Re: My next bow
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2015, 08:40:00 PM »

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Re: My next bow
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2015, 08:43:00 PM »
AH, I'll bet he is doing this by the book... That explains the delay...  :)

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Re: My next bow
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2015, 10:08:00 PM »
LOL

Really, the screwups above blew my window of warm weather.

I think that what I'll do is scratch the heat treatment, and save that for when the weather is better a couple bows down the line.  Probably tomorrow, I'll glue up the back.  Just going to go for some guled in reflex this time.  Then, provided that sundays snow doesn't stick and monday is actually in the mid 40s like it's supposed to be, I'll get on with cutting the shape etc.


Since it's been cold, I have been working on something smaller (but still archery related) indoors while I wait for better weather though.  In fact, I just finished putting some finish on it.  I'll post a pic tomorrow when it's all dry.

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Re: My next bow
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2015, 06:20:00 PM »
So during that bout of cold weather, I had to quit working on this until warm weather returned (took longer than anticipated).  Warm weather has returned so I've been busy working on this!

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So, here's the initial glue up.
 

Out of the form, not cleaned up yet.
 

Cleaned up some.
 

Roughed out.
 

Small Parts.
 

Much more refined.
 

 


I've got the back trapped and am ready for the tillering tree.  Unfortunately for my bow making, it's raining today and tomorrow.  Friday might be too muddy, we'll see.  Though, I must admit that we *really* need the rain.  About 6 days back or so, we had a massive grass fire start along the missouri river just a mile or so from my house and it burned out of control for a few days.  The town of elwood across the river was evacuated and parts of my city where also evacuated as the fire managed to actually jump the river.  Hundreds of acres where burned.  So yeah, I'm actually pretty dang glad things are wet right now.

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Re: My next bow
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2015, 09:12:00 PM »
Well, spent a lot of time with the tillering tree today.  Got the bow to 45# @ 14".  Tomorrow should be make or break.  From there it's just shaping the handle, thinning the tips, and putting some finish on it.  Hopefully more pics tomorrow.

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Re: My next bow
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2015, 10:43:00 PM »
So the tiller is done.  It survived and I've taken it to the range to shoot it.  It's still unfinished in that I haven't thinned down the tips, fully finished shaping the handle, made a proper string for it (just used the tillering string), or put any finish on it.  Based on my initial impressions and observations, I've met many of my goals but also had some failures that I've learned from.

Goals Achieved:
So based on initial impressions, this bow shoots *much* straighter and faster than my last bow of similar layout and this is directly due to the tillering and timing tutorial linked in the OP.  I don't have a chronograph, so I can't say exactly how fast it is.  What I can say for sure though is that arrows that where over spined for my last bow are in the ballpark for this bow despite the fact that I haven't even lightened the tips yet and the handle is a little bit thicker.  

The overall workmanship of the bow is much better than the last with a notable exception that I'll get to later.  Everything is straighter and more symmetrical, and just done better.  While I thought the last bow was ugly, this one has something intangible about it that I find attractive despite being very similar bows.

Using the glued in reflex, the bow sits almost perfectly flat, but just a hair reflexed after an hour and a half of shooting.  After sitting a while, it gains about a half to three-quarters of an inch reflex.  This is much better than my last bow which ended up with a good three or four inches, at a rough estimate, of string follow.

One of the things I thought about was that red oak is a sort of mediocre compression wood and needs all the advantage it can get.  To that end, I really went to some effort to make the belly side as flat as possible in order to distribute the work along the whole width of the belly as evenly as possible.  I suspect that the way my last bows belly was more rounded has much to do with the amount of set that it took.


Now, I'm happy with all of that, but it would be dishonest if I didn't cover the next bit.

Where I failed:
So there I was trucking along on day 2 of the tillering.  I was at 20" or so and everything was going pretty smoothly but suddenly, I started completely misreading the tiller for no reason that I can pin down.  Maybe I was just getting tired, I dunno.  All I know is that somehow things got switched around upstairs and suddenly I thought the bow needed exactly the wrong thing.  So I caught this major mistake at about 24".  This really just didn't give me enough room to fully correct the tiller.  Ironically, this is the first time the tiller didn't turn out exactly the way I envisioned it, despite this being almost certainly the only time it was really right.

So I'm thinking I may bring it down to 35# to give me a little more wiggle room, but it will frankly just never be perfect.  At some point I'll have to just live with it and move on to the next, chalking that up to a learning experience.


I'll try to get some more pictures up tomorrow and finish it up in the next few days.

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Re: My next bow
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2015, 06:36:00 AM »
Nice job...

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Re: My next bow
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2015, 08:36:00 AM »
Nice
But his bow will remain steady, and his hands will be skillful; because of the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob, because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,  (Genesis 49:24 [NETfree])

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