I think a lot of folks find this, Stone Knife. You know I'm having a good time with my first recurve right now. I think the fact that Hills are a challenge is part of the appeal. When I first started to shoot, they appealed to me... the look of them... the history, and someone said, "That's doing it the hard way...". Well, h___, I always do things the hardway! They are a ball and when I had to drop weight, I just went out and got some lighter ones, but the simple fact is they're not the only toy in the toybox. Or, to go back a few years, "I like your dump truck better'n my fire engine...." Do we ever grow up?