I bought a single arrow and loved it. So I bought a dz of 2 sizes. I LOVE them and they shoot great out of even Hill style bows. The spine is far more Trad oriented than others when you throw them on the tester. They are consistent spine around each arrow, matched weight, and the insert is excellent and has a little wrap over the end of the shaft. The 80 Gr insert is about 2” long and it almost internally foots the shaft too. I have had issues with other brands and kept going back to wood and aluminum, but I really like these Victory Trad arrows.