woodies and aniline dye

[bsv]

I am going to dye some new poc.shafts my question is,if I use water with the dye, then shellac will it turn my color amber,is there another sealer before the top coat that will be clear to show the color better? should I use alcohol with the dye? thanks Burt 

[Roy from Pa]

Water soluble dye will raise the grain.

Use the alcohol soluble dye.

I seal with gasket lacquer.

[bsv]

thanks Roy is that your top coat as well? any pic's

[Pat B]

Shellac isn't the best sealer for arrows, it's too brittle and will rub off easily. Water based poly works well, dries clear and doesn't have a heavy chemical smell.
Alcohol, like Roy said is the way to go.

[Roy from Pa]

Yes gasket lacquer is top coat with a dip tube, 4 coats.

It is smelly stuff to apply though.

Water based poly works well also like Pat said.

[bsv]

so can I use the same powered pigment with alcohol or water? very nice arrows Roy,I;m thinking about brite red or blue, maybe green

[bsv]

I thought I would have to use shellac to seal so the water base poly won't react with the water mixed dye

[Roy from Pa]

I buy aniline dye online, they sell either water based or alcohol based dye.

I don't know if there is a dye that can be mixed with either.

https://woodworker.com/search.html?search=aniline+dye&searchmode=2

Shellac is not waterproof.

[The Whittler]

You can use water base paint and cut it with water. It works like a stain and you can get any color. 3-4 coats of water poly and it looks great and a very good job.

[reddogge]

Shellac is one of the poorest sealants as far as water protection goes. Gun stocks were never sealed with it outside of some Soviet bloc stocks.

[Pat B]

If you already have the dye contact the manufacturer and ask them about using it with alcohol. Another option is Rit dye and alcohol. Lots of colors to choose from.

[bsv]

what I meant shellac was kind of a barrier from water base dye and water base poly, as any top coat will stick to shellac, water base poly will blend with the water base dye and shellac won't

[Tim Finley]

I used water based poly and found out it wasn't very water proof. I use Zarr marine grade poly in semi gloss it dries in two hours and get like glass . For stain I use a water based dye from Klingsporr its a powder you mix and I mix it way stronger than they recommend I got beautiful colors for my cap dip and they don't have that painted look .

[bsv]

Thanks Tim that's what I was looking for

[Overspined]

I can’t remember where, but there was an article written about some study of gasket lacquer and it’s a nice finish but not necessary by itself, as it doesn’t seal well.  Water based or oil based poly when dipped and hang dried works well and seals for sure. I usually use either leather dye with denatured alcohol or usually trans tint with denatured alcohol to color shafts, or even veneers for that matter. There’s a finish poly fin my buddy uses and it’s awesome, but the stuff is hard to get I guess. No target burn.

[Gator1]

Tim good tip.  I found the dye you say it is as rich is paint?

Thank you

[bigbadjon]

The best clear coat I know of is Daly's Profin. It is expensive and depending on where you are in the country also expensive to ship. But worth every penny.