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Author Topic: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....  (Read 3018 times)

Online Cory Mattson

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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2019, 07:55:13 PM »
A sight pin would probably help. Not joking. One of the biggest changes I have seen during my lifetime of bowhunting. Mid 70s most recurves had sites on them and a ton of guys learned to hit.
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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2019, 08:01:37 PM »
Are you looking up? Sometimes in anticipation there is a tendency to look up to watch the arrow strike, but unfortunately we look up before the arrow is actually on its way. Been there, done that, and have the T-shirt!
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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2019, 08:11:58 PM »
Buck fever is something you can somewhat prepare for. I said somewhat but here’s a few ideas. For starters make sure you can shoot, you understand form and practice with ALL your gear on.
Now back to practicing. You need to practice with raised anxiety or under some stress.
You can easily start this by just making a tic tac toe board for instance. Take some electrical tape, put it on a 2-3 foot sheet of cardboard for the lines. . Play w your buddy n whoever wins team, country, dog, etc is better.

You’ll  want to beat him and must pick an unmarked spot n still shoot. Baby steps.
I’m not saying to do this but as kids we’d reach over w an arrow feather n tickle the shooters ear to throw him off. We’d also shoot 3D n Try breaking the first shooters nock. The first shooter aimed for the nose tip on the target. If you miss, oh well maybe you’d hit rocks. Try throwing leaves or hay in front of the shooter, see if that don’t blow his game initially.
Point is find ways to bullet proof yourself . Strip archery would be a good one although if you don’t have a gf shooting w you it’s gonna be weird!
My buddy years back was a special forces guy. He went sleep deprived, hungry, than did a timed run after a week of this and had to lie prone in ice water n qualify. Talk about stress training.
Find ways to stress yourself and still make a shot. Here’s another. Always practice harder than anything you’ll ever encounter. Makes normal shots cake. Hope this gives you ideas
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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2019, 08:15:38 PM »
Oh my, at 20 or 25 yards maybe but at 6 :banghead:

You need some serious black bag practice in low light, no aiming spot.   :archer2:


People who dont have target panic will never understand.  Luckily, in 2019, there are people who get it and have the knowledge to teach others to overcome it.

To cure target panic you need to retrain your Brain to a dif response. Reprogramming takes time. String bow lots is the way to go.
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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2019, 09:20:37 PM »
Joel Turner's method x 4
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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2019, 09:26:08 AM »
I’ve heard guys talk bout Joel Turners system. Must he decent but I you tubed a segment he had. In a nutshell it seems he was attempting at reprogramming. So if you decide I hope it works. If for some reason it doesn’t pm and I’ll help you.
My method is not an in season technique as it takes time and NOTHING is going to work in season as you’re trying to hunt/shoot.
Taking nothing away from the man as I haven’t seen anything in full.
Jim Castro is another fellow that has a system not much different than mine in that he reprograms you. No matter what you use you MUST train your brain/reflexes differently. It takes time. Good luck and anyone needs help outside of a season n willing to work consistently pm me
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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2019, 10:15:03 AM »
Bear fever?

Try watching it for a bit and let your heart settle down some  and relax before deciding to shoot.
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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2019, 11:12:35 AM »
For some reason, when we're close to critters we want to shoot, there is an extreme urge to rush the shot.  Seems as if the subconscious is thinking shoot quick before it gets away.  As a result, we tend to lose focus and just unload the arrow.  It's happened to me.

Now my mantra is, "Take your time.  If you get the shot, make it a good one.  If you don't get the shot, so be it." This helps me keep the nerves under control and make a good shot.  Not always, but most of the time. 

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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2019, 03:51:52 PM »
Please understand, I wasn't trying to be mean.  First off I don't believe target panic and buck fever are the same things.  Similar maybe, but not the same.

The truth is I've know men who gun hunted all their lives who can not kill a deer.  I have a close friend who wheel hunts, and is the same way.  In one week he missed three antelope at 20 yards.  Same guy can slap pop cans off the fence at 50 yards with his compound set up.

The first thing you have to do is control your heart rate, and you do that by slow deep breaths.  You're just shooting another target, no big deal.
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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2019, 04:10:00 PM »
The name is Jim Casto, not Castro.  Happens a lot it seems.  :wavey:
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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2019, 07:25:14 PM »
Hang in there partner. Did the same thing last Friday on a chip shot doe at about 15 yards, right over her back. I thought, what the heck? I was looking at the whole deer and not a spot.
The next morning I put my focus cap on and center punched a doe at the exact same yardage.

Good luck buddy!

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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2019, 03:04:08 PM »
The cure is Joel Turner. Shot IQ.

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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2019, 03:31:15 PM »
Bear fever?

Try watching it for a bit and let your heart settle down some  and relax before deciding to shoot.
I wish that this would help, but I watched him for at least 20 minutes before the first shot, and he milled around for about an hour before I got the 2nd shot.

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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2019, 03:47:55 PM »
There were a few threads a while back about target panic in the shooters form section.

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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2019, 03:57:04 PM »
A sight pin would probably help. Not joking. One of the biggest changes I have seen during my lifetime of bowhunting. Mid 70s most recurves had sites on them and a ton of guys learned to hit.
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That's essentially what my "quick fix" is. I added an aiming reference to my riser and I'm having instant success. I even shot too fast a couple of times, on purpose. Fantastic results. I have some pictures of arrows in bullseyes, but I can't get them to upload.

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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2019, 08:56:10 PM »
Sight pin might be a quick fix, but Joel Turner is the way to go to beat this.

Joel isn't trying to reprogram the subconscious. He's trying to get you to make conscious, firm decisions in the heat of battle. In a nutshell, you have to stop the subconscious from controlling the shot. You start to do this by deciding to make a perfect shot. To do that, you need to know what a perfect shot is, and the decisions/sub steps to get there.

Sorry to say it, but you have to work to beat whats ailing you. Just know that it can be beat. The cure is there for the taking, and Joel can help you set up for success.

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Re: PLEASE, Tell Me There's A Cure....
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2019, 09:52:06 PM »
Good luck with this! We all get bit by nerves once in a while, whether it be in the heat of the hunt or in competition. I've heard a lot of good things about Jim Casto's method.
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