Need some more help please..

[Vabowman]

It appears the past 2-3 days my arrows come off the bow shelf nock high and correct just before it hits the target. I can't tell if this is a form issue or my nock. is it too high or too low? I havetried 3 under and split finger and it doesn't seem to matter..about 1 in every 4 shots flies straight.

[Vabowman]

Ok, well I think it must be a bad anchor/form.. I found a groove and the arrows for the most part flew straight. I had 1out of every 5-6 fly nock high...shot split finger and adjusted the nock point just a swatching midge. the 8 deerwatching in the back yard don't seem too worried about hitting anything...

[McDave]

There are two things that cause nock high.  The first is where your nock point is too high.  This isn’t ideal, but not really a problem, either, as a true nock high is very consistent and repeatable, and won’t affect your accuracy (much).  The second is where the arrow shaft bounces off the shelf, resulting in what we call a false nock high.  A false nock high is detrimental to your accuracy.

A false nock high can either be caused by a too low nock point or form issues.  Assuming you already have a reasonably high nock point, like 5/8”, it is better to work on form issues first, because it is hard to determine where your nock point should be if you’re not shooting correctly.

Many people put too much string pressure on their ring fingers.  Most of the string pressure when you draw the bow should be on your middle finger, next your index finger, and very little on your ring finger.  Learn to come all the way to full draw with back tension.  Shortdrawing the bow and overusing your arm muscles is a common error that makes it hard to get a clean release.

A problem that only occurs with the split finger grip is holding your string arm elbow too high, which causes you to press down on the nock with your index finger as you draw the bow.  This can actually result in a bowed arrow that springs back when shot, which in turn results in another form of false nock high.

Too much pressure on the ring finger is a worse problem for a 3 under shooter than a split finger shooter, because the ring finger of a 3 under shooter is further away from the nock than it is for a split finger shooter, giving it more leverage to do bad things to your shot.

All of the things I discussed will result in nock high shots if they are not corrected.

Once you feel like you have a good consistent string grip and draw, you can start experimenting with nock point.  Most people like to start with a nock point high enough that there is no possibility of getting a false nock high, like 1”. A 1” high nock point should result in a natural nock high.  Then work the nock down the string maybe 1/16” at a time, hopefully noticing with each movement that the nock high is getting less and less.  Continue to do this until all but a tiny bit of nock high has been eliminated, or else you have reached a point where the nock high starts to increase again, meaning it has become a false nock high.  Either put your nock point where there is only a tiny bit of nock high, or at the lowest point you can achieve before it switches to false nock high.

[Steelhead]

Nice writeup by MCDave.

I only have one thing to add that could be of help.You can try a double nock on the string.One above the nock and one just below the nock.This way if your putting downward pressure on the nock it helps minimize it.Quite a few archers do it.

[Vabowman]

McDave that was awesome..I really do appreciate the time.I have been playing around with the nock a bit and found it back to it's original place. It seems there is a major issue with anchor/form. The paradox with traditional for me is that I never know if its my form or the equipment..But what Im finding out is.....usually its form. As far as the two nocking points, both are serving, I had that. the bottom kept working its way down and I tried a dap of super glue but it never does hold.. so I removed it for now. any issues with using two brass nocks?