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Author Topic: STOS BHs?  (Read 349 times)

Offline Jeff Sample

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STOS BHs?
« on: April 14, 2008, 05:33:00 PM »
I'm thinking of switching to a STOS BH for an upcoming trip to Africa to get closer to the 3:1 ratio for more optimal penetration. Was wondering if the factory ground bevel on a STOS head is the proper angle (like a Magnus), or do you have to significantly file them to get the right angle first, before putting the final touch on them (like a Zwickey)? Any other opinions on these heads also welcomed (e.g., durability, ease of sharpening, etc.).

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Offline John Nail

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 06:40:00 PM »
Jeff, I like and use STOS heads a lot, but I would chisle point the tips for Africa. Good luck, and take lots of pictures!
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Offline Dave2old

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 08:26:00 PM »
I agree with John on the point, only go with Ashby's Tanto tip instead (see the 2005 updates on this site). Too bad STOS won't have out its new ultra-heavy, single-bevel, Tanto-tipped heads in time for you.

Offline Fletcher

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 08:58:00 PM »
The STOS heads I've had came with a pretty good factory grind on them, much better than the regular Magnus.  The tips do need some work but that is true of most all 2 blade heads, but a nice diamond or tanto only takes a few strokes from the file.

The Grizzly ElGrande, 150 or 190, or the Ribtec would also be a good choice.
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Offline shootssmallbulls

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 09:26:00 PM »
I shoot the 160gr ones and I really like them,taken alota game with them and have excelent penetration. I also agree with dave and john the tanto tip would be the way to go.

Offline JC

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 09:08:00 AM »
Great heads, agree with all that's been said. There is almost always a 160 version weighted to 200 in all my quivers. It is what I reach for when I want to make sure I shoot all the way through something.
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Offline DanDaMan

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 09:44:00 AM »
You can also get them unground and put a single bevel on yourself.  It does take some work, but worth it in the end for me.
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Offline Dr. Ed Ashby

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 11:47:00 AM »
The 160's are very good heads, once the tips are modified. Todd Martin is hard at work on some single-bevel STOS versions, but I don't have a time frame for availablity. You might try giving him a call. Ed Schlief (Alaska Bowhunting Supply) is developing some screw-mount BH's that may be of interest too; and I think some of those will be available soon. It's worth a phone call to both Todd and Ed, to see what the status is.

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Offline PA Bones

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 12:39:00 PM »
Hey Jeff,
I have used the Stos 125 gr. mounted on 125 gr. steel inserts and they fly great.  They are also pretty easy to get sharp.  Best of luck.
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Offline Jeff Sample

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 05:24:00 PM »
Thanks all! I'd like to put some 160s on some footed shafts that I got from Bob Burton - should finish out at 800 gr. Always liked the ease with which the Magnus 2-blades can be sharpened to shaving sharp with just an AccuSharpener, but don't want the width of the bigger Magnus blades. Hopefully these will be just the ticket!
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Offline Bowmania

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 10:16:00 PM »
Jeff,

I'd ask my PH.  I switched from a 3 blade to a two for more penetration.  Everyone I was with were shooting WW or MA-3's.  My PH asked me why I was shooting a 2 and I said penetration.  He said, I'll never forget, "Here we don't care about penetration.  We care about blood trails."  I said, "but Ashby said"  and he said, "Ashby has his own agenda."  Didn't get specific on any of this because a kudu came in.

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Offline SlowBowinMO

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2008, 10:25:00 AM »
The STOS and newer Magnus have a great grind, they will sharpen easily for you.

   STOS Broadheads

Here's a pic of how I slightly modify the tip, very easy to do:

 
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Offline swp

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2008, 01:30:00 PM »
Tim,

Could you share your tip modifying technique? Or anyone else for that matter, please enlighten those of us who have never filed down a tip as to how it is done.

Thanks,
Scott
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Offline SlowBowinMO

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2008, 01:40:00 PM »
Scott, I simply lightly stroke the tip with a file, about 3 strokes per side at a 45 degree angle or so, then flip the head and repeat over and over.  Using very light pressure you can take a little off the tip and if you're consistent the head will still spin properly.  Once done it's done forever, takes about 5 minutes to do.

That's how I do it, I think most people do it that way.
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Offline jrchambers

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2008, 06:09:00 PM »
how does one get ahold of unground heads?

Offline DanDaMan

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2008, 07:47:00 AM »
just call them up.  their # is on their web site, tell them what you want and your in buisness.
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Offline bayoulongbowman

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2008, 09:00:00 AM »
Kustom King archery has em... :)
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Offline John Nail

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2008, 12:30:00 PM »
After it's mounted and spun for trueness, I simply grip the tip with pliers about 1/16th back, and break them off. Then file and stone. They work great.
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Offline Horne Shooter

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2008, 06:31:00 PM »
make the switch...they are excellent.  All the other stuff has pretty much been covered above.
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Offline tomh

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Re: STOS BHs?
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2008, 07:45:00 PM »
the new stos heads I bought a little while back have tips just like you show in the picture.

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