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Author Topic: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?  (Read 1055 times)

Offline Bow Bender

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Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« on: May 13, 2020, 05:31:56 PM »
In another thread I was reading about repairing a thumb tab.  I have been involved in archery since before wheels were invented and this tab is something that I and probably others are completely unfamiliar with. I have used gloves, tabs and even have experimented with releases. I am familiar with thumb rings and have no desire to use one of those because the arrow shelf has to be on the opposite side of the bow while still shooting right handed.   Rather than hijack the other thread by asking a bunch of questions there I decided to open a new one and see what I could learn about them.

 Fist, it appears that a strap of leather gets wrapped around the string and then tightly gripped between the thumb and first finger, then the string is released by relaxing the grip on the strap. Is that correct?

Next, does a right hand shooter use a standard right handed bow or does the bow have to have the arrow shelf  on the opposite side?

It appears that a very smooth release could be achieved with this type of tab because the string would have a straighter path of travel forward compared to shooting off the fingers using a glove or standard finger tab. Is this correct?
 
In competitions, is this considered to be a release ?

I may have more questions later but lets start with these for now.

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Offline Daniel G. Banting

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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2020, 07:09:01 PM »
We called them "Strap Tabs". I lived in Ontario Canada during the 60s and 70s and they were quite popular although I did not shoot one myself, several of my shooting buddies were always trying to convert me either to a strap tab or a bow lock. There were commercial versions of both but every one I shot with made their own. Black Widow  had one available for a short time and I think there was one popular with the flight shooters called a Six-Six. I believe what you are asking about is still in use by those involved in flight shooting although it may have been usurped by mechanical releases.

As I mentioned they were easy enough to make and the guys who used them were always tinkering with strap materials and the body that actually was held in the palm of an enclosed hand. Good Luck.
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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2020, 07:10:06 PM »
And yes, shot the same side as conventional finger release.
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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2020, 08:05:41 AM »
Bow Bender the answer is yes to all of your questions.

I shot with a competition shooter in the 70s that used one because he had arthritis. His name was Howard Schofner (in case any of the older Jersey guys here remember him). He competed in classes that were bare bow fingers (don't know what they called the class). He started to clean up because he was such a good shot. They changed the rules and deemed it a release back then (I think to force him out of the class). I imagine in competition it would still be considered a release today. Back then we shot both compounds and trad instinctive with it. Another friend of mine would shoot a 70# longbow with one and also shot it like a rifle (if you ever try one you will know what feat that is).

The strap gets wrapped around the string from your index finger towards your thumb and your bow shelf is the same as though you were shooting fingers, since the direction of tension is the same as fingers.

Years ago I was shooting with Bob Wesley. He shot two under split finger and so did I at the time. He said to me, "Gil it is hard for a split finger shooter to beat a 3 under shooter". I never forgot that and tried to master 3 under, but just couldn't get it, so I went back to my wrist tab. Since I lost mine I made a simple one that just went around my fingers. It is the light brown one in the picture in my other thread. It works great but is uncomfortable compared to the original wrist tab.

The wrist\thumb tab is extremely smooth. It expands your draw (with fingers I am 28.5" with the wrist tab I am 31"). It enables you to raise your anchor up close to your eye (like a 3 under shooter) and the fletch to touch the inside of your nose adding another anchor point. Since you raise your anchor it decreases the gap between your arrow and eye, thereby reducing the margin of error. By increasing your draw it forces you to hold with your back muscles and puts your drawing arm elbow in Terry's 6 o'clock position in his shooting clock. It also lowers your drawing elbow. You will also notice that upon release your drawing hand goes back and there is no creep since you have expanded your draw, touch your feather to your nose and lock in your anchor with your back muscles between your shoulder blades.

At first start to use one on a lite bow until you get used to it. It first feels like it wants go until you get used to it (and you might actually let a few fly while drawing). The secret to using one is to make sure that when you grasp the the string with the tab the folded tab is behind the first knuckle of your thumb and deep into the web. If you do this you won't let any go on the draw. If you shoot a very heavy bow it will take you a long time to master only because of the weight. You will have to strengthen muscles you probably have never used. I never had the strength to be able to draw over 60#s with it.     

I am just back to shooting after a two year lay off because of a fourth bow arm shoulder injury. I am shooting a lite 45# bow and shooting pretty good for having a long layoff. I was shocked to be honest. I attribute that to the thumb tab. I think if I were still shooting split finger it would have taken a lot more time to get back. I still have a lot do to get completely, back but it is just great getting back to trad archery. It has been a big part of my life for 60 years.

Look on Youtube for Talon Thumb Tab. He is a sponsor here, but I am not sure if he still makes them. You will see how he uses his. It is a good place to start to understand how they work. You may want to just make one like my finger tab in my thread. You just need a strip of 1/2" wide leather (3mm 5-6 oz) and a small dowel.

I will watch this thread in case you have any other questions.

Gil
« Last Edit: May 14, 2020, 08:26:49 AM by Gil Verwey »
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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2020, 11:35:01 AM »
Look up the Talon Thumb tab videos on YouTube. I have one. They work fine, but will take some getting used to, as would any major change in the way you do things.

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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2020, 12:28:26 PM »
Look up the Talon Thumb tab videos on YouTube. I have one. They work fine, but will take some getting used to, as would any major change in the way you do things.

Bisch

Interesting.  Anyone know if they are still available?

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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2020, 01:06:49 PM »
Look up the Talon Thumb tab videos on YouTube. I have one. They work fine, but will take some getting used to, as would any major change in the way you do things.

Bisch

Interesting.  Anyone know if they are still available?

No, they are not being made, he stopped making them.
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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2020, 02:01:47 PM »
Look up the Talon Thumb tab videos on YouTube. I have one. They work fine, but will take some getting used to, as would any major change in the way you do things.

Bisch

Interesting.  Anyone know if they are still available?

No, they are not being made, he stopped making them.

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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2020, 02:48:49 PM »
Look up the Talon Thumb tab videos on YouTube. I have one. They work fine, but will take some getting used to, as would any major change in the way you do things.

Bisch

Interesting.  Anyone know if they are still available?

No, they are not being made, he stopped making them.

Oops!!!! I didn’t know that they were not being made anymore.

Sorry for the bad lead!!!!

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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2020, 05:25:27 PM »
Gil, and everyone else, thanks for the information. I will try to find the YouTube videos. This sounds interesting especially if it helps with achieving full draw and using the back muscles correctly.  I will try to make one to experiment with and probably will have more questions on the proper use of it.  Why do you think that its popularity faded?  Did the introduction of mechanical releases have anything to do with it?

  Thanks.
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Re: Wrist Tab - Thumb Tab?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2020, 05:47:42 PM »
I would have never known or heard about them if not for the friend with arthritis in his drawing hand. There was limited information then too, unlike today. Also back then many guys were hunting with heavy bows. With a heavy bow it is difficult to draw this way. I used to shoot 70# and never had the strength to shoot my longbow with it.

I only went back to it because I wanted to shoot 3 under but couldn't master it. I also shoot lighter bows now. Now that I have switched to it I will not switch back from it. We had one archery store that carried it. He may have actually been making them. Today we have unlimited information at our finger tips. Back then it was word of mouth or searching the phone book and calling stores. You could only call to ask about it if you already knew they existed.   
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