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Offline Fishers

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Another BH question
« on: June 14, 2020, 10:13:55 PM »
Trying to decide and need opinions on the BH to use for elk in CO this Sept. 60# modern recurve, 30” Victory Carbon Trad arrows, total weight 540 gr which includes 125 gr point and 80 gr insert. Choices are:
Woodsman 3-blade
Dirt nap DRT 2-blade with bleeders
G5 Montec 3-blade
Bearpaw German Jager 2-blade
Steel Force 2-blade
Carbon Express Piledriver 2-blade
Main puzzler for me is 2- or 3-blade. Curious to hear opinions. Yes I know any is likely fine if I hit it in the right spot, but...

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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2020, 08:39:39 AM »
Woodsman is only head I have experience with and all positive.
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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2020, 11:40:54 AM »
I am a two blade shooter.  The only 3 blade stuff I have shot is the woodsman and the G5.  Those were both on wheel bows.  I have stuck to 2 blade on my curves and LB's.  I have had no problems with 2 blade performance on 45# bows giving me pass through's from 25 yards in on our good sized Illinois deer.  I will admit I stay away from bleeder blades.

All the usual applies.  Keep em sharp as hell and know how to put the arrow where it should go.
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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2020, 01:49:33 PM »
You have enough punch to go either way.  Among the heads you list, I'd opt for the longer sleeker ones like the Woodsman or the 2-blade Steel Force. Better mechanical advantage than the stubbier two-and three-blades.

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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2020, 03:14:30 PM »
What Orion said....

If I can kill a 2000# Bison with a 70 pound longbbow and a WW, surely you can kill an elk with 60 pound bow with a WW.

Montecs are powdered metal... that's a serious no no for me.

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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 04:44:15 PM »
What Orion said....

If I can kill a 2000# Bison with a 70 pound longbbow and a WW, surely you can kill an elk with 60 pound bow with a WW.

Montecs are powdered metal... that's a serious no no for me.

Best of luck!!!

I agree that powdered metal is a no go!

Personally I like VPA's because I can get them in a wider cut than the WW heads, but the WW's are killers. At 60 lbs you could use a bigger broadhead on elk. Your bow will be plenty for elk even with a little wider head.
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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2020, 04:58:49 PM »
Pardon my ignorance but what is “powdered” metal? I’ve used Montecs with great success on whitetails with 50&55# limbs. I totally get that elk are vastly different; just curious about the term “powdered.” I was already kinda leaning toward the Woodsmans or DRTs.

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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2020, 06:41:41 PM »
Montec uses a precision injection molding process of powdered metal being injected into molds under high temps and thus forming a seamless one piece molded broadhead.  Thats the simple explanation.

I personally had no problems with them, but as I said, that was back in my wheel days.

I have heard, and this is second and third hand that some folks had them shatter on hitting heavy bone....  Like I said....  I have heard....

Just some info.....  I am not putting Montec down in any way.
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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2020, 08:44:39 PM »
The choice that provides you the most confidence will be the one.
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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2020, 10:48:32 AM »
Powdered metal will never get as sharp, and will never hold an edge as well as real metal.

Life is too short to shoot inferior broadheads  :readit:

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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2020, 11:19:55 AM »
I do love the Woodsmans and have had good success shooting their glue-ons on wooden arrows for whitetails shooting 50-55 lbs., I just wasn’t sure 3-blades are appropriate for elk. But I guess with 60# limbs & carbon arrows with more FOC they’ll do the job, as long as I do mine.

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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2020, 06:14:19 PM »
The slightly more slender design allows you to take advantage of the added cutting power of the Woodsman head.  More than enough horsepower.
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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2020, 11:57:24 PM »
If you are coming to Colorado - stop by Rocky Mountain Specialties and get some of their Rocky Montain Cut Throats - single bevel two blade.  I use them in Africa and was really impressed.  I have shot Zwikee BH for close to 40 years or so.  The RMCT heads are much tougher in design.  I had pass through shots on 6 animals in Africa. 
Just a thought - you would also be visiting the best Traditional shop in Colorado.

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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2020, 09:43:02 AM »
Are the powdered metal heads not tempered?
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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2020, 05:51:49 PM »
Out of those you list in your post, the one I would recommend is the Woodsman. They are great heads.
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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2020, 06:10:36 PM »
I think I saw 3rivers has steelforce on sale...
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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2020, 06:35:34 PM »
I think I saw 3rivers has steelforce on sale...

Yep,and I have some great heads $14.99

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Re: Another BH question
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2020, 06:42:45 PM »
Caint kill nuttin if you ain't shootin a zwickey.
 Atleast that's my experience .
 Even old bear razor heads are pretty deadly.
 I don't think you can go wrong with any of the aforementioned heads. Just be sure it's one youre confident in and can keep it sharp
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