RMS Gear Solid Grip Clicker

[Etter]

Anybody used one yet?  They look perfect as the psychotrigger.  I ordered one this week

[Pmringer]

I tried the large and it was too big for my grip. Medium on the way. The few times I could get the large to go off it was great and much more convenient than my limb mount. Anxious for the correct size to arrive.

[McDave]

I just looked at the ad for this.  How in the world do you set this thing to go off at your draw length?  Or does this require you to first come to full draw without setting it off, and then somehow increase palm pressure against the grip to set it off?

[sveltri]

McDave - yes, after getting to full draw and transfer to hold when ready to complete the shot you start increasing tension until the pressure in the palm triggers the click.

[Matt Parker]

I tried it but i didn’t care for it. I had to adjust my hand after I anchored in order for it not to go off while I drew back. And it didn’t stick well, it kept sliding to the side of my grip. I prefer the limb mounted clicker.

[K2]

I have not pulled the trigger yet, was waiting on tsome reviews. I was worried about what Matt said previously that it would go off when drawing the bow.  Will use my limb attached clicker for now.  Hope to see more reviews.  Thanks guys.

[nineworlds9]

Ken RMS is open as far as I know, ought to swing by and Alex can get you set up in person. He's Corona-free far as he says

[K2]

Chuck,

Last time I called the recording said they were closed.  I will call them Monday.  Have you tried one yet?  Thanks.  Ken

[nineworlds9]

Gotcha Ken, I may have understood him wrong last time we talked.  He's supposed to drop a few in the mail for me. 

[BAK]

Just a thought, but if you got one of these in small, and were able to mount it to the "front" of the riser and squeeze it with a bow hand "finger" at full draw then the "click" could be your stimulus to release that way.   I only mention this as I knew a couple of archers in MN who had made such devices about 30 years back.   

[McDave]

The thought of having a psychotrigger appeals to me, but as I use the dead release, pull through triggers won't work.  I have resisted the idea of artificially increasing finger, or in this case palm pressure, to trigger a release, because I have been taught to relax my bow hand as much as possible other than keeping one finger around the handle to keep the bow from falling out of my hand when I release the shot. 

On the other hand, Tom Clum knows a lot more about shooting the bow than I do, and if he supports this triggering device, it might be worth a try.

Matt Parker's comment about the thing slipping to the side caught my attention.  That could be a symptom of a bow handle problem as much or more than a problem with the gadget.  I have one bow where I always felt like my hand wanted to slip to the side.  After fighting it for years, I finally took a rasp and sandpaper to the handle and reshaped it until it pressed straight back against my hand, and am much happier with it now.  Once in a class with Rod Jenkins, he told us that he actually appreciated practicing in the hot muggy south, because if he could shoot his bow when his hand was all sweaty without it slipping, he knew his grip was shaped right.

[trad_bowhunter1965]

From what I have heard it works my the questions is, has anyone tried on a Longbow not a Hybrid and do you think it might get folks to start grabbing their bow on release ?

[nineworlds9]

Just a thought, but if you got one of these in small, and were able to mount it to the "front" of the riser and squeeze it with a bow hand "finger" at full draw then the "click" could be your stimulus to release that way.   I only mention this as I knew a couple of archers in MN who had made such devices about 30 years back.   

BAK youre basically describing the Handi Clicker. It is a different principle than the Solid Grip Trigger.

For anyone interested I suggest listening to The Push podcast episode 127 where Alex and Tom discuss the trigger. 

[nineworlds9]

Also, an instructional vid has been made and will be available for viewing soon, stay tuned.

[BAK]

I believe it does look like the same principle.  The guys that I saw using such had them set up so they were mounted to the bow, not separate from it though.  Either way did the same thing.

Even knew one guy who came up with a little plastic device he could keep in his mouth and bite down on.  When it clicked he'd let go.

[nineworlds9]

BAK are you saying deliberately squeezing a trigger on the front of the grip is the same as a trigger that operates off increasing dynamic tension?  The front mounted trigger you describe even if you try and match your finger pressure to your back tension is always going to require some measure of conscious thought. The whole point of Alex and Tom's idea is to remove thought from the equation and make the focus be increasing tension. I invite you to give it a try for yourself. Making assumptions that its the same old same old is shortchanging yourself IMO for something I believe will rewrite the rule books in a few years.

I have zero financial stake in the product, but as Alex' older brother I will go to bat to promote it as I believe in the product and know how much work he and Tom put into it.  My own review is forthcoming.

As for where to locate the trigger, the kit comes with temporary adhesive backing and "permanent" adhesive backing. Peoples hands and bow grips will vary so you find the sweet spot and once you do mark the grip and remount with the other backing. If the surface of the grip is clean and free of grease the "permanent" backing should have no trouble sticking.

 

[BAK]

Not saying they are the same at all, just that using a bow mounted clicker isn't "new" per se.  I'd say if you are someone who struggles and feels they need that sort of thing to go ahead and give it a try.  However as my friends found they were seldom allowed to submit scores at 3d matches because of such.   

[Etter]

I like it a lot

[Pmringer]

So I got and tried the correct size after liking the idea by making the wrong size work. I am now back to my limb clicker. I think it is a great idea but it kept sliding on the grip on my stipled Big Stick Assassin. Primary reason for removal was forcing my grip. I was torquing the bow to set it off occasionally. I had the location dialed for the majority of shots but the few that went off early or messed with form caused me to pass on it.

[Etter]

I was texting with joel turner yesterday about using one as a grip sear but he recommended placing it where my palm could trigger it but slightly lower than the way rms gear recommends. So I draw back, anchor, aim, and then just slowly roll my palm pressure down onto it until it pops.

It is instantly my favorite and easiest to run trigger.