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Online Bryan Adolphe

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Protecting bowform before glue up.
« on: November 16, 2022, 01:19:23 PM »
So I had a big roll of shrink wrap I thought I would try covering the form first and then doing the glue up i recall seeing big Jim doing his like this I think! My role was about 20 inches wide and of course the form is not flat so I have to wrap it and overlap you get quite a few creases in the wrap Of course they lay down pretty good but they are there , should I not be worried about it ? Thanks guys here’s a picture.


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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2022, 01:21:04 PM »
I guess I got a hold the camera different darn.  :dunno: Roy!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2022, 02:00:08 PM »
I run a piece lengthwise, but it has some wrinkles, don't think I've ever seen a defect due to a wrinkle ...
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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2022, 06:01:29 PM »
I don’t wrap my form,  but rather lay a piece of plastic wrap lengthwise on top of the form so the sides hang down along the sides of the form for 3-4”. I
Blue tape that by wrapping the tape around the form. I use filament tape to tape bow layup to the form before putting on air hose and top
Form.
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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2022, 07:05:46 PM »
I think I will remove this and since I have such a wide roll run at length ways, see how that goes so when you use the filament tape, can you tape right to the riser and the laminations or should you have your pressure strip in ?

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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2022, 07:19:50 PM »
I like the zip tys , so I can tighten them whichever way the riser needs to move. You can manipulate the riser position by alternating tightening, the lams pretty much stay put.

 I have 1/4" holes about an inch down on the form in the fades on one piece bows or wherever needed, then about midlimb. The tip will take care of itself if you don't wanna ty it down.

Tape is a pain to me.

Just be sure to not fully air the hose if that's what you are using, as it will prevent ty removal. 10 # is about what I go to before cutting tys and pulling out.

Side note- with 10#, most of the glue squeeze out is done, so I may use  too much at 60-70#
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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2022, 07:20:34 PM »
And don't forget plastic on top of bow assembly before pressure strip and hose. :biglaugh:
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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2022, 09:27:13 PM »
Zip ties and side washers or some of my forms have slotted flat aluminum pieces to keep sideways movement down.
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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2022, 06:33:02 AM »
I guess I got a hold the camera different darn.  :dunno: Roy!

Cell phone pictures are tuff.

If you have a photo editor in your phone or PC, open the picture and rotate it 4 times 90 degrees back to where you started. Then save it. Then try posting it here.

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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2022, 10:57:25 AM »
When I first started building bows everyone was putting masking tape on their glass and used a variety of different kinds of plastic from sandwich  wrap to painters plastic.

 I think I tried it all before coming to  the realization that you really don’t need to cook that masking tape to your limbs, and quit using it on the glass until AFTER  the limbs or bow comes out of the forms. Even then, I just use minimal amounts for drilling lay out. I use spray paint and a limb pattern made from Formica for my limb profile after my limbs are mounted.

What I finally settled on that I like the best is cutting strips of 2-3 mill painters plastic in 6” strips about 36” long. I get the limb laid up, wipe it clean with lacquer thinner and place the limb on the plastic and just fold it once before putting it in the form. Then I place my heat strip, or pressure strip over it, and wrap the excess plastic back over the top of the heat strip and then zip tie it to the form. I like the 3 mill plastic the best. It’s easier to cut and work with, and it come off easier than the thinner stuff does.

I did have some heavy plastic with deformations in it transfer to the glass a few times, but never have problems with lighter mill plastic…. I always leave my zip ties in place using 22 gage stainless steel heat strips, and use 50-60# pressure.

Protection for my forms is done when I first build the form only. I seal them with several  heavy coats of brushing lacquer or shellac and store them on a shelf in a vertical position. I also glue the bottom  stainless steel heat strip in the form so it stays in place and protects the shape. If it gets glue on it, it’s easily sanded off the stainless steel.

Here is an older lay up video I did back when I was using electric heat strips. But shows the whole process I use.   Kirk




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Re: Protecting bowform before glue up.
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2022, 08:30:08 PM »
I heavily wax my complete form 'carwax' and lay a piece of 3mil plastic over the form, tape around and then start laying my laminations down. JF

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