Arrow selection

[Tnfiddler]

Is anyone shooting a 300 spine arrow from a 45# bow? How much weight on the front end do you have to add to get good flight. I'm Looking to achieve a heavy arrow setup for hunting.

[Wudstix]

I play around with 340/350 carbons out of 66# D/R longbow and have 300+ grains up front with @1.25" more than needed to shot the arrow with broadhead.  29-29 1/2" is normal foe me with carbons.  Just a swag.  I'd probably go 400+ from my heavy bows.  You could go full length and heavy.
 

[Tnfiddler]

3 rivers has a great deal on some 300 spine gold tips and the guy I chatted with recommended them . I just don't  know if I'm wasting money on so.ething that won't work

[Wudstix]

300 is pretty stiff.  But with the right length and weight up front they may work.  I'm not a carbon shooter except for those I've picked up in trades.
 

[Friend]

Very possible, well over 400 gns up front and a longer arrow. Likely over 15 gpp....would be far from my personal choice and I prefer a moderately heavy arrow.

[Terry Green]

I shoot 400s out of my 50# Centaur Triple Carbon with a 175 to 190 grain heads.  I don't know if you are familiar with the Centaur bows, but they are no slouches in performance.

I haven't shot those out of my 60+ pound bows, but I should try them just for kicks.

All that being said, my guess is that they are going to be too stiff. All my arrows are cut 29"s BOP, and have been forever, so I don't  know anything about full length arrows and what you can do with them as far as spine.

[Michpatriot]

I am shooting 350s cut to 32-3\8" carbon shaft length, pushing 170 grains up front with 53-54# at the finger..

[Tnfiddler]

According to the spine calculator at 3 Rivers  a 300 spine would work out of a 45# bow if I used a 300 gr broadhead. It would be a great hunting setup but not too good on the 3D range.

[STICKBENDER98]

I have a set of 45# at 28" limbs for my Northern Mist Skanee that make a 60" bow, and I'm shooting 60-65 spine Doug fit shafts out of it with 200 grains up front, they're cut to 29 1/2".  Not sure how they would compare with a 300 spine carbon, but I get really good flight out of them.  I shoot these primarily out of my long bows, I have some 400 spine carbons I shoot out of my 50# recurves with the same weight up front, but those are cut to 30 1/2", they seemed to be a bit spine heavy if I cut them shorter, and I didn't want to add the extra weight up front to try to weaken them.


Jason

[Ryan Rothhaar]

I see guys on other forums talking about these crazy high spine arrows out of light bows. Put it in perspective......  .300 is as stiff as many carbon arrow series go....and you are shooting that out of a 45 lb bow? I shoot .300's some out of good performing 65 lb recurves with skinny string etc and 280 grain points and still get indications of stiff arrows like fletch wear and marks on the shelf. I seem to recall that .300's spine north of 100lbs.

Maybe .400s with a real heavy point. I'd start with like .500s if it were me.

Be careful of the guys on other forums...one "western hunting" focused forum comes to mind...getting into weiner measuring contests....some guy that switched over from a compound last week, watched a couple of YouTube videos and has a crazy stiff arrow "tuned like lasers" out of his light bow.....uh..ok...

R

[Dave Pagel]

I think they would be stiff also.  I don’t shoot a lot of carbons, but out of a Silvertip recurve that is 51@ 28 I shoot 500s with a 50 grain insert and 200 grain head.  With the 43# limbs I shoot 600s with the 50 grain inserts and a 200 grain head.  I draw 29 and cut my arrows to 30 inches BOP.

DP

[Orion]

RR x 2

[STICKBENDER98]

I agree that the heavy arrows out of light bows makes no sense to me, and I’m far from being an expert on understanding everything that goes into the dynamics of arrow flight.  I shot recurve for years and never shot anything in a heavy spine, mine are 50#, i’ve shot wood, aluminum & carbons out of them, 50-55# woods, 400 & 500 carbons, and 2016s in aluminum.

When I started shooting longbow, which was a Northern Mist. I called & talked with Steve at Surewood Shafts, who was still there at the time and ordered a test kit in spines from 40-45 to 65-70, and started playing & settled on the 60-65 spine, that is a 52# Baraga. I have since added several more NM to my herd in a weight range from 45-62#, I had a used Classic that was 69#, and shot the 60-65 the best. I have limbs for my Skanee that are 45, 51, 52, and 55#, all seem to like the 60-65s. I do shoot 2018s and have some 2020s that shoot good out of my heavier limbs, but my other NM that are one piece don’t seem to like the aluminum or carbons.

Like i said in the begining, it makes no sense to me, all I know is that I get good flight and the arrows hit where I’m looking…for the most part, when they don’t i’ve either had a bad release, or i’m trying to peek & drop my bow arm. Bad habits are hard to get rid of!!!! 



Jason

[Tnfiddler]

Thanks for all the input. Looks like they sold out on that deal at 3 Rivers so I don't have to worry about it now. 

[Wudstix]

I shoot 340/350 Carbons with 290-300 grains up front with 30" arrows from 65-66# bows.  Draw length 27 3/8".  They still are a tad stiff.
 

[Terry Green]

Yes, .... this ...... all of it.

I see guys on other forums talking about these crazy high spine arrows out of light bows. Put it in perspective......  .300 is as stiff as many carbon arrow series go....and you are shooting that out of a 45 lb bow? I shoot .300's some out of good performing 65 lb recurves with skinny string etc and 280 grain points and still get indications of stiff arrows like fletch wear and marks on the shelf. I seem to recall that .300's spine north of 100lbs.

Maybe .400s with a real heavy point. I'd start with like .500s if it were me.

Be careful of the guys on other forums...one "western hunting" focused forum comes to mind...getting into weiner measuring contests....some guy that switched over from a compound last week, watched a couple of YouTube videos and has a crazy stiff arrow "tuned like lasers" out of his light bow.....uh..ok...

R

[BUCKY]

#40 Kanati lb cut to center. 26” draw 27” 500 spine arrow with 300 up front.