Got one finished up for this years seasons. 64" 58@#28" Osage selfbow with rattler skins, Ostrich leather grip and shelf with a beaver tail strike plate. Vinagroon stain. Bocote/purpleheart tips. Top limb has twist both ways and had a few inches of natural reflex from mid-limb out to the tip. Great, well balanced shooter. Hits where I want and seems pretty quick. Unbraced pic is immediately after shooting, it holds a little more reflex in the top limb, but both have some after resting.