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Author Topic: Hill Bows and TS-1  (Read 423 times)

Offline George D. Stout

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Re: Hill Bows and TS-1
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2008, 08:38:00 AM »
The answer I got from Craig differed.  He said low or non stretch strings would be harder on the bow...not just the tips...and could shorten the life of the bow.  He had no doubt his bows could shoot the low stretch, but I'm sure he was covering his keister on issues regarding breakage.  I can't blame him for that.

Offline LBR

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Re: Hill Bows and TS-1
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2008, 09:34:00 AM »
I'm curious to know if anyone has actually done any tests, kept records, etc. of whether or not newer string materials affect the "life" of a bow.  I've heard of a few bowyers that have concerns, but no actual proof--just opinions.

I'm no bowyer, and don't pretend to be, but here's my simple take on it.  It's a proven fact that low-stretch materials reduce hand shock.  They do this by imparting more of the bow's energy into the arrow--therefore less resonates down the limbs to the riser (hand shock).  Since you have less vibration rattling the limbs at every shot, seems to me that if anything the low stretch materials would be easier on the bow in that respect.

I've broken a bow or three, and seen/heard of a bunch that broke or delaminated.  Most, if not all of the ones I know of had a dacron string on them.  I'm not blaming the string, but I have no doubt that if these same bows had been wearing a FF type string, the string would have been blamed in most if not all cases.

I don't shoot as much as some, but I can say my longbow has NEVER had a dacron string on it.  It's [email protected], and I've been shooting it a dozen years or so.  It's my #1 bow--I use it for tournaments, hunting, playing, etc.  No idea how many thousands of arrows I've shot from it, and it shoots as good today as the day I got it.  I've been shooting a Dynaflight string on my osage selfbow for going on my third year, and it's still going strong.  Some selfbows don't last three years period, especially with my draw length.  It doesn't see as much action as my longbow, but it does get shot quite a bit.

Rod Jenkins has shot more arrows in a month than most of us will shoot in a year.  He uses low-stretch materials on his bows.  I'll try to remember to ask him how many years/how many arrows he has on his bows.

FWIW--the opinion of a non-bowyer, non-pro, hillbilly nobody from MS--if the bow AND STRING are properly made, you won't be hurting it one bit by using a FF type string material.

Chad

Offline Chad Sivertsen

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Re: Hill Bows and TS-1
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2008, 12:04:00 PM »
This is an interesting subject for sure. I think Chad's last sentence is correct, at least according to my limited experience. George, I don't think you will have any problems with the bow and it will likely be more quiet, smoother and probably a bit faster.

I use low stretch on all my bows including several selfbows and a couple of BBOs and have had 0 bow failures. Smooth and quiet, really like the stuff.
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Offline LBR

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Re: Hill Bows and TS-1
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2008, 12:43:00 PM »
Talked to Rod a while ago, but didn't take notes so I can't accurately quote anything.  He did mention one bow a serious archer friend of his had--a Hoyt, I think--that was shot for years, several hours a day on average, that used FF and then 8125 for the string and shooting super light arrows--never had a problem with it.  Over the period of 5 or 6 years that bow had more arrows put through it than most would ever shoot in a couple of lifetimes.

Rod didn't know of any actual tests either.  He had a good idea--if someone really wanted to find out, they could take two identical bows, one with dacron and one with a FF type string, put them in a shooting machine, and see if one failed before the other.  Of course if the one with FF failed first, it would be the string's fault and if the dacron bow failed first it would be blamed on a flaw in the bow.......but it would be interesting all the same.

Maybe Rod will chime in later and give his experiences.

Chad

Offline Pete W

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Re: Hill Bows and TS-1
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2008, 07:42:00 PM »
I will side with Chad on the new string materials.
 It is amusing that someone will say the bows life will be cut in half from using new string materials.  Did you ask him how long the half is?
 How many of his bows have failed because of the string type?
 and how many have failed using his choice of strings.

I will take a chance and use a string that gives less shock and vibrations. The bonus performance is just something I have to live with.

Pete
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Offline HATCHCHASER

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Re: Hill Bows and TS-1
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2008, 11:05:00 PM »
Chad has forgot more than I will ever know about strings...I trust the man's opinion..and Pete has tested alot of bows and strings so I'll just side with them.  I will say that different bows like different strings so imho I try to keep an open mind.  Works for me.
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