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Author Topic: elbow pain?  (Read 394 times)

Offline shade seeker

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elbow pain?
« on: June 08, 2008, 02:19:00 PM »
Has anyone had this problem (elbow pain) with the arm they draw with... I've been shooting for a few months now and it's becoming an issue in my daily shooting and excersise routine.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm hoping it will just go away in time but I don't want it to get worse?

Thanks

Offline ka

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 02:25:00 PM »
going to the doctor soon for the same thing. had spur ground off one years ago.
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Offline Mark 507

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2008, 02:47:00 PM »
I did. I went to the doctor and was told it was tennis elbow. She had me wear one of those straps on my forearm and take ibuprofen for the pain, it did not help. I then went to a chiropractor and he worked on it several times and that helped a lot but it dose take time. Good luck, hopefully it is nothing too serious.

Offline NDTerminator

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2008, 03:24:00 PM »
Tendonitis.  Went through this, thought I was going to have to quit archery for good.

Several months of physical therapy and Cortisone treatments took care of it. Don't even have to use the support stap on my forearm anymore.  

Have been pain free for nigh onto 2 years now...
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Offline shade seeker

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2008, 04:10:00 PM »
thanks for the info and encouragement... Whatever it takes!

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2008, 08:05:00 PM »
Had it in my bow arm (the elbow), couldn't even raise my arm to scratch my head. Terrible pain. I had to lay off shooting for quite a long time. I hope you heal soon, as it affects alot more than just shooting. Very best of luck to you.
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Offline Jeff U

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 09:29:00 PM »
I had it when I started with a bow.  Tried the tennis elbow strap and that helped some.

My medical plan was to ignored it and hoped it would simply go away.  To my astonishment it worked and the pain went away all on it's own.

My guess is that as I got stronger and worked on form, to use more back muscle and less arm to draw, it reduced the stress on my elbow.

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2008, 09:38:00 PM »
I don't recommend ignoring it.  I did and went through years of pain that I could have been spared by simply seeing a doctor.  When it got so bad that I thought my archery days were done for good with all the attendant stress of that bleak outlook, I finally went in and found it was easily treated with a progosis of complete & permanent recovery...
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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2008, 09:43:00 PM »
ND is right. I've dealt with the same problem. More than likely you will need a little medical help, therapy, cortisone shots, etc. The quicker you adress it, the better off you'll be.
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Offline BobCo 1965

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 01:42:00 PM »
I've never had it in the draw arm, but I have had it in the bow arm. For me anyway, it is caused when using my straight limbed longbows too much. When it starts up I usually switch to one of my recurves.

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 02:32:00 PM »
Me too. Draw arm elbow pain. Took a few cortisone shots. They're not a good habit and only helped for a few days. Finally gave up and dropped 10# of bow weight. No more trouble.
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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2008, 03:15:00 PM »
BobCo, I am the opposite since I started shooting Hill style bows I’ve hade no more elbow pain If I start shooting my recurves again the elbow pain starts to return.....stabow
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Offline David M. Mathis

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2008, 03:33:00 PM »
I had it in my bow arm and quit practicing shooting for long periods. This happen my first year of shooting a long bow. I couldn't put it down. OK now 10 years down the road. Mike

Offline amar911

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 04:10:00 PM »
Tendinitis is caused by overuse, or a rapidly increased use, of the affected muscle/tendon/ligament group. Connective tissue needs to be strengthened and toughened over time with a slow increase in the level and duration of the stresses that are applied to the group. As stress is applied, there are micro-tears, cellular damage and other processes that tend to temporarily weaken and inflame the tissues. The rest periods between the application of stresses allow our bodies to repair these minor injuries while telling our bodies that those areas need to be strengthened. If done properly, we will be able to sustain greater stresses over time without long-term injuries. When we over-stress the tissues to the extent that normal repairs cannot be easily made by our bodies, or when we do not allow sufficient rest periods for repairs to take place before we re-apply the stresses (over-use),the inflammation cycle takes over such that inflammation causes additional damage, then the additional damage causes more inflammation, and so forth. The only things that work to get rid of the problems are to decrease the inflammation and allow a stress free period for the tendons to heal. As others have suggested, steroids (like hydro-cortisone), other anti-inflammatory drugs, physical therapy, and other medical intervention is often a big help. Once you break the cycle by reducing inflammation, healing can begin. No matter what, you will have to limit your activity with the affected muscle/tendon/ligament group until healing occurs. After that, start with low weight, low repetition, low frequency exercise and build up VERY SLOWLY. It can take up to 2 years to get everything functioning at full strength, and that assumes you do not keep re-injuring yourself. This applies to all forms of tendinitis, including things like "shin-splints" and "tennis elbow".

I recommend starting back your exercise program after you have healed using something like the "Bow-Fit" exerciser rather than actually using your bow, because you can start at a very low weight and increase it as you progress, something you can't do with a real bow. There are several models of the Bow-Fit in various weight ranges. I would recommend that you start with the medium model (or even the light model if your draw weight before was low) and later work back up to the heavy model (or the medium model). I have the heavy and the safari models, but I have not yet built up to the safari model. Each Bow-Fit is only $20, so it is not a big expense. They are also good for the warm-up and stretching that we need to do before we shoot our bows. There is a kit that also includes a DVD along with the Bow-Fit. I bought the kit and found the DVD fairly helpful but not exceptional. I think they could have done a better job showing how the Bow-Fit can be used to its full potential.

I have no financial interest in Bow-Fit. I have come back from serious health problems and found this simple device to be very helpful in getting me back into shooting. A few months ago I could barely draw a 45 pound bow to my anchor point. Now I can draw (with some difficulty) a 70 pound bow to full draw. I did this with no significant injuries, just a little muscle pull in my lower back muscles that lasted less than two weeks.

Resign yourself to your injury, seek medical care, allow a significant period of inactivity for healing, and then start easy and progress VERY SLOWLY using low draw weights, plenty of warm up and stretching, and very minor increases in weight over a LONG time. Make sure to strengthen your other muscles too, because they provide the stability that is necessary to prevent injuries and allow your body to function correctly in your shooting activities. If you do something different you will probably re-injure yourself and be forced to start all over again. Patience is difficult but necessary. Good luck.

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Offline AllenR

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2008, 04:38:00 PM »
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Originally posted by amar911:
... It can take up to 2 years to get everything functioning at full strength, and that assumes you do not keep re-injuring yourself.
amar911 knows what he is talking about.  It took me three years to get over it in my bow arm because I wouldn't quit shooting.

I tried the cortisone shot, but that hurt worse than the tendonitis and didn't do any good.

There are stretches and exercises that will help, but you have to give your muscles a rest period after you do them.  After all the lack of a rest period was probably one of the causes of the problem.  :)

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Offline BobT

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Re: elbow pain?
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2008, 05:06:00 PM »
I had it in my bow arm elbow from shooting too much. The pain got so bad that I couldn't tie my shoes without pretty bad pain I had to completely quit shooting for almost a year. When I started back I decreased my poundage drastically (75 down to 30)and started with 3 arrows per session 2 sessions per day 4 hours apart. I increased 1 arrow per session per week until I could shoot 25 arrows per session without any pain. Then I started to increase poundage 5 lbs per month. This was in 1995 now I can shoot up to 50 lbs. for as long as I want to shoot without pain. If I go much above 55 I can only shoot a few arrows before i start to feel it, especially if the bow I'm shooting has any "hand shock". I did not have any shots but I did use Motrin on occasion to ease the pain. I had a physical therapist to help me come up with this practice routine and it worked pretty well. Don't wait to see your Doctor it and don't shoot if it causes pain. I got myself in a real mess and thought I would have to give up shooting!

Good luck!

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