I've used them to punch big holes in my indoor leagues for 5spot and Vegas targets, and at a .406 diameter they're logs!
I shot them reasonably well, but I've had better performance out of the GoldTip 30X's with 350+ grains at the tip, heavy for sure but the spine on them is ridiculously stiff - it's a 150 series arrow! I don't know how much point weight you'd need to even get them to spine correctly..
Don't know if I'd use either on game, personally. I've used the GT arrows with great results, and this year I'm trying out the Easton FMJ series to decrease the shaft diameter for penetration.