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Author Topic: Torges Seat, revisited  (Read 1302 times)

Offline akbowbender

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Torges Seat, revisited
« on: July 25, 2008, 03:07:00 PM »
I've been tinkering around with the Torges Seat. I really like it so far, though I haven't hunted with it yet.

I tried it first using the knotted rope adj., then using the "hitch" that deadsmple (    http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=052359;p=4    ) came up with, and decided that I like deadsmple's method best. Since I used the same seat for both tests, I decided to use the hole and slot for the "tail" of my rope, making it easy to install and remove the seat without having to tread the rope thru the holes every time. The best of both worlds!

 
 
Now I have to put it to the test this fall....
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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2008, 03:55:00 PM »
Just from the looks of that, I think a Prussik knot where that hitch is would give you the most adjustability with the least amount of setup time.

What is that, a seat for the side of a tree?
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Offline akbowbender

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2008, 04:04:00 PM »
I'm not familiar with a Prussik knot. This setup works well. Follow the link in my original post for photos of what's going on under the seat.

You got it. I'm making several for when I'm whitetail hunting in Upper Michigan. I have a padded steel seat that I have been using, but it is clunky and heavy. This should work great in it's place.
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Offline Blackhawk

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2008, 04:37:00 PM »
That looks...  :thumbsup:
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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2008, 04:58:00 PM »
Here's a prussik knot.  Also called a triple hitch.  Pretty useful knot to have around!
  http://www.animatedknots.com/prusik/index.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com  
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Offline akbowbender

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2008, 05:20:00 PM »
Looks like it. May have to give it a try, though it is one more piece to keep track of....
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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2008, 05:39:00 PM »
Great idea adbowbender. I love tinkering with this kind of stuff.

I made my first tree seat last year and hunted with it, and it is completely functional. The knotted rope is a hassle. By simply drillng another whole next to the non-slotted one, I can add the hitch and not worry about taking the knots already in the rope. Great thinking!

Offline old arrow

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2008, 09:28:00 PM »
I have been using the Torges seat for several years. The one improvment I made is the addition of padding to the seat, foam with waterproof cover.

Offline akbowbender

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2008, 09:36:00 PM »
I'm still working on it. Like you, I'm going to put some padding on it, and some rubber where the seat contacts the tree. I'm also thinking about installing a small bungie cord on the bottom so I can coil up the rope and slip it under it so it is out of the way when packing and I'm sitting on it.
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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2008, 12:48:00 AM »
After studying the prusik knot some more, I don't think it will work because the load to make it cinch up has to be on the exposed end of the prusik loop. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, or if I'm not seeing how it would be applied to this application.
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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2008, 02:00:00 AM »
I like to make a bunch of these seats to leave in the woods in the many different "spots" I like to hunt. I've found that if I take the time to give each one a handful of coats of poly, I can leave them out there year after year. When they are not in use I just take them off the tree and hide them in the brush that has been strategically placed to create cover. This way the only thing I'm carrying into the woods is my rope and a cushion. Another tip is I like to put a bevel on each side of each hole so that it makes threading my rope easier. Duct tape wrapped tightly around the ends help in threading the rope also.
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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2008, 08:01:00 AM »
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Originally posted by akbowbender:
After studying the prusik knot some more, I don't think it will work because the load to make it cinch up has to be on the exposed end of the prusik loop. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, or if I'm not seeing how it would be applied to this application.
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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2008, 10:16:00 AM »
Got it. That would make for a quick, quiet adjustment. Thanks!
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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2008, 10:36:00 AM »
I hunt with Vaughn most of the time and do the same thing. It is so easy and makes for quick changes in set up easy too.
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Offline Legolas

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2008, 11:24:00 AM »
Take a look at how Deadsemple did the knots on his Torges Seat, this is the simplist: Scroll down to his post.


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Offline Bill Tell

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2008, 12:15:00 PM »
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Originally posted by akbowbender:
After studying the prusik knot some more, I don't think it will work because the load to make it cinch up has to be on the exposed end of the prusik loop. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, or if I'm not seeing how it would be applied to this application.
I want to let you know that even though it may not work for your seat I believe it is the one knot all deer hunters should know.  If you run a line along your tree stand steps and use a prusik as you climb you will never fall from your stand.
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Offline Talondale

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2008, 01:26:00 PM »
Prusik knot works.  Deadsmples knot looks quick and easy too.

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2008, 04:31:00 PM »
I made up a couple using, deadsimple's 2 whole method and have to say I like it! very easy to use and no knots to tangle or adjust.
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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2008, 05:06:00 PM »
akbowbender,
  Have you tested that seat out yet?  That rope looks like it would have a lot of give in it and make getting the right adjustment difficult.  I had that problem with my rope and needed to change ropes.

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Re: Torges Seat, revisited
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2008, 09:49:00 PM »
I built two Torges Seat last season and love them. I will be adding a cushion for this season.
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