Fast Flight string question.

[O.L. Adcock]

Zilla, maybe it was 5:1, meaning we're even more over built. I don't see the creep with 97 but I'm sure some do. I only use Flemish strings and they continue to settle over time and it's so difficult to put a twist or two in the string occasionally!  


I really don't care what folks use. In competition I'd prefer everyone else use 1/4" poly rope! Yep, don't want skinny string cutting into tabs or gloves but doubling only the finger area adds about 10 grains while the bigger string in total adds 75+. Again that's not a string problem that's a string makers problem. Just want those who want to think outside the herd that the things we do aren't necessarily for good reason. Still haven't heard a good agruement "for" fat strings. Glad to know 5-10 pounds of performance isn't enough to bother folks!   ....O.L.

[zilla]

O.L. I Googled up Flemish string strength, and found different authors list different ratios.  One site says 5:1. another 4:1, and on the Bowyers Bible page I found said that english war bows of 120 lbs needed a minimum of a 400lb string.  You very well coulda seen 10:1 someplace..

[waknstak IL]

This probably will sound silly, but is there some way to pad the center of the string sorta like many do the loops with a little extra material? Giving them a little more diamater for serving  but not as much weight and little more give to make it easier on the bow.    

Chad, good chattin with ya the other day, hope all is good with your dad.

[30coupe]

waknstak,

Yes, you can do that. I've done it. It's kind of a pain, but it works if you are patient. It would probably add less weight than doubling the serving, but I've never weighed a string either way, so I'm not sure.

I did it for my daughter's bow. It's a 45# @ 28", but she probably only draws about 26. I made her a 10 strand B50 and padded the area under the serving with four strands to get the nock fit I wanted. It makes a faster string, but I think it is a bit noisier. Haven't made any with FF yet, but my Kanati came with a D97 string. I don't know the strand count though.

Russ

[O.L. Adcock]

Waknstak, What I do is serve the 3" or so where the fingers go, the go up 1/2-3/4" and serve like normal but over that 3". The only extra mass is that 3" over a normal serving. It's not just the mass however, a .090" string 60" long has the same frontal area as a 5/16" arrow shaft 16" long flying sideways at 100 mph. Cutting that in half makes a big difference...O.L.

[Arrowslinger]

Very interesting O.L.,  I make FF flemished strings for my R/D longbows,  the bow I am shooting now is 65lbs at 28" and I draw 29.5".  I think it is about 68-69 lbs at my draw length.  How many strands do I need to be safe?

[O.L. Adcock]

Jeff, You'd be good at 10. Especially the heavier bows I'd sure suggest going up a bit in arrow weight as dropping string size the the same as dropping arrow weight. A person that shooting 9 or 10 gpp could find themselves the equivalent of being under 8 in a hurry. Now you still need to pad the loops. It's the skinniness of the string and shape of the tips that causes most problems. The limb groves need to be shaped so the loop stays in a teardrop shape with no edges or corners. That's where recurves get into trouble while longbows don't..As much anyway.   ....O.L.

[Arrowslinger]

Thanks O.L.  I do pad my loops.  I have been making a 14 strand now but I an going to try a 10 and see how it works.  Most of my setups are with at least 650g arrows some even more.

[Rigs]

What is the strength of a single strand of fast flight or fast flight plus?  I may try to build some leaner strings?  Right now, I'm bulding 15 strand 3 bundle strings...

Happy hunting,
Jason