got a 6' by 10' brand new peice of carpet in trade for a flu shot just last night. went out to shoot, thinking i could back up more than I am used to doing. shot about ten shots, then i had a bad release and completely missed the target, punched a hole through the carpet and busted one of my first home-made arrows into the rock fence behind it. shot it again from about 35 yards w/ an arrow with no point and it punched through also. I want something that is not super expensive (down here in texas the hay bales are pretty high dollar) and can stop my arrows. any suggestions? thanks a ton everybody, -Lee