I left a few notes on mine in previous forum's, but let me add this. The other day a buddy and me went out hunting, he had his trusty bucket (you can get alot in a bucket and comfy). I had my Torges seat, he laughed at first, till about mile later when he started saying a few things to the bucket, ha-ha. When we got to the spot, it was on a little hill side and he searched and dug out a flat spot for the bucket, I watched and giggled at him, finally after he was set up, he looked at me and said aren't you going to get ready. I took the seat off, looped it around a nice tree tied the knot, adjusted and minute later sat down looked at him and said Ready. he was amazed. when we got back home, he asked and in 30 minutes he had one. Great Invention Dean, forever hold your name.