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Author Topic: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows  (Read 258 times)

Offline Smallwood

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what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« on: December 29, 2008, 01:28:00 PM »
i am going to foot some beman ics bowhunter 400s , but don't know what size alum shaft to use?
Easton says the outside diameter for the 400s is a .294"

thanks for your help guys,
sammy

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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2008, 01:34:00 PM »
"The most demanding thing you can ask of a piece of wood is for it to become an arrow shaft. You reduce it to the smallest of dimension yet ask it to remain it's strongest, straightest and most durable." Bill Sweetland

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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2008, 01:36:00 PM »
I compiled up this list earlier this year. I couldn't find the ICS's for the list, need to get that one filled in.

   
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This would be cool to have a compete list of footing sizes.  Here was what I have compiled with the blanks someone might file in for us.

Beman MFX Classics
500 - 2020
400 - 2018
340 - 2016

Beman ICS Bowhunters
500 - ?
400 - 2114
340 - ?
300 - ?

ST Epic
600 - 2016

ST Excell
500 - 2016

Axis ST
500 - 1916
400 - 1916
340 - 2020/2018
300 - 2016

Carbon Express Heritage
90 - ?
150 - 2216
250 - 2216
350 - 2215

Carbon Express Terminators
4560 - 2216
5060 - 2216
6075 - 2216

Arrow Dynamic
Lite - 2413
Reg  - 2413

Gold Tip Traditional
3555 - 2117
5575 - 2216
7595 - ?

Old Beman Classics
500 - ?
400 - ?
340 - 2219

Old Carbon Excell
400 - 2117
More shafts that need to be added?
Fill in the blanks and I'll update the list.  dino
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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2008, 02:04:00 PM »
What Diameter are the Beman 400’s.

I’m not sure if this helps but I footed some Carbon Express 250’s and the used 2216 aluminum shafts at the splice. I had the same question as you a couple of weeks ago and Trag Gang member Stoney sent me this information from Easton Arrows.

The four-digit number refers to the outside diameter and wall thickness of the shaft. The first two numbers are the outside diameter in 64ths of an inch. The second two numbers are the wall thickness in thousands of an inch. For example, a 2514 shaft would be 25/64th of an inch in diameter and .014 of an inch wall thickness. OD and wall thickness are the two variables in controlling spine for aluminum arrows.

Shaft Diameter – wall thickness x 2 = inside diameter of the aluminum shaft.
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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2008, 02:11:00 PM »
the outside diameter on the bowhunter 400s is-
.294"

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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2008, 02:31:00 PM »
Either of these should work

2114
21 x .0156 = .3276 od (outside diameter)
.3276 - .014 - .014 = .2996 id (inside diameter)
.2996 - .294 = .0056 slop

2115
21 x .0156 - .3276 od
.3276 - .015 - .015 = .2976 id
.2976 - .294 = .0036 slop
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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 02:49:00 PM »
Smallwood,
Let me know which one works better if you would. dino
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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2008, 03:38:00 PM »
Dino,

That’s a nice list you have come up with. I did try, just this morning, to foot a CX250 with a 2117 and found it to be around .010 too small. The CX250s O.D. measured .305. I ended up going with the 2216 and around .006 - .007 slop.

Just curious, what is the length most people foot their arrows?

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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2008, 03:51:00 PM »
I was told not to go over 3”.
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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2008, 03:59:00 PM »
Anyone know the outside dia. of a Grizzly Sitka?
I have a chart to find the right size shaft just not a micrometer to measure the Sitka.
TIA
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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2008, 07:05:00 PM »
Blackstick,
Your 100% correct and thanks for pointing it out so it can be corrected.  I just went out to the shop and tried it myself...no dice!  Couldn't get the 2117 to fit on a CX150 either.  This list I compiled from searching old threads on what guys "reported" they were using to foot various shafts, I haven't tried all of them myself.  Keep em' coming.... additions, corrections, filling in the blanks and I'll keep it up dated. dino
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Re: what size aluminum footing for carbon arrows
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2008, 09:07:00 AM »
i'll let you guys know, when i can get my hands on a 2114 / 2115 shaft to try.

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