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Author Topic: Footed shafts  (Read 3515 times)

Offline aromakr

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2009, 11:58:00 AM »
Falk:
The point on Dino's arrow is one his Grandfather made. It is a Gus Adkins blade with a bear razor head ferrule (bubble end) It was call a Vanderhorst Wildcat.
Neat point and very rare.
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Offline Bjorn

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2009, 12:04:00 PM »
OL, so the forward half is, say Cocobolo, and the rear is cedar?

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2009, 12:43:00 PM »
Bob, I was not to far off then  :D  and for sure does it look good!

And as you now gave the history of it I remembered a thread, almost a year back, explaining how the head went into Dino's hands. Your are good guy  :thumbsup:

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Offline Paul WA

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2009, 01:12:00 PM »
Bjorn, yes most make them out of POC I recently viewed a new site I thought I had bookmarked that the shafts were made of Tamarack which would make the shaft almost as tough as the footing...PR
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Offline O.L. Adcock

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2009, 01:38:00 PM »
Bjorn, Yes, eother POC or spruce either one would be good in the back half. Paul, how's the density of tamarack compare with spruce or POC?....O.L.
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Offline dino

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2009, 04:55:00 PM »
Falk,
That head is the one that Bob found for me last year.  One of my prized possessions that I am ever in debt to Bob for finding it.  Little piece of family history.

I've been shooting some tamarack this fall that came from Canadian coast trees.  Awsome straight tight grain the entire lenght of the shaft.  I haven't got any footed yet but they are definately more durable than POC or Spruce.  Most durable soft wood that I have ever shot but not comparable to hardwoods Finished shafts 60-65 29" w/125 gr point were around 625 which is the same as my footed POCs.  Can't wait to get some footed to see the difference between the two.  

Paul, what site did you see those tamaracks on?  I would like to check it out.  dino
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Offline Paul WA

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2009, 05:25:00 PM »
Tamarack is tougher than spruce or cedar and heavier..PR
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Offline O.L. Adcock

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2009, 06:04:00 PM »
I don't care about toughness in the back half of the shaft, the footing takes care of that. I was curious about weight for FOC reasons. The footing will take care of the tough part!  :)  If it's heavier, I'll stick with the POC.......O.L.
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Offline Bjorn

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2009, 06:29:00 PM »
OL, That sounds like a great arrow! Is the Cocobolo 11/32? And what is a typical shaft weight prior to finishing?
And what's the FOC?

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2009, 06:43:00 PM »

 
 
The footing is Wenge.  I like the looks of my purple heart better,

Offline Al Kidner

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2009, 01:12:00 AM »
I like the sounds of this Tamarack too... anyone out there carry it in higher end spines?


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Offline Paul WA

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2009, 12:02:00 PM »
I will try to get the website off another forum..PR
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Offline knife river

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2009, 12:15:00 PM »
The weight and density of tamarack (or larch as it's called in much of the western states) depends on where it comes from in the tree.  Once upon a time I owned 40 acres outside Whitefish, MT that had some big larches growing on it.  They were dwarfed by the 5' dbh stumps that were on on the property.  The stumps were almost head-high.  The loggers (early 1900s) "high-stumped" larches because that section of the tree was so heavy that they would cause the entire log to sink when floated into Flathead Lake.  They were called "deadheads."  I'm told there's a company that salvages these old giants in the lake.  Can't help but think there's some outstanding shaft material there.  I wonder about the stumps, too.  Larch is extremely decay resistant and the stumps I tested were as solid as they were 100 years ago.  If the wood grain isn't wild (as it often is in stumps), that could be some super-heavy shaft material.
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Offline hardwaymike

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2009, 02:14:00 PM »
I know this sounds really dumb, but what does FOC stand for?  :confused:    :knothead:
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Offline flint kemper

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2009, 02:40:00 PM »
Hardwaymike, Forward of Center(FOC). Flint

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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2009, 04:15:00 AM »
Oh ok. That is what i was thinking but had to be sure just to know I wasn't lying to myself again,lol. Thanks
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Re: Footed shafts
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2009, 08:48:00 AM »
Here are a couple of Ted Fry's footed shafts. Top one has Woody's point and bottom has my forged broadhead.  Both intact after harvesting black bears.

 

Next is a carbon shaft footed with an aluminum arrow section plus another tippit forged head...hopefully to harvest a Texas hog soon  ;)   Doc

 
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