Muzzy 4-blade Phantoms vs. Woodsman

[JoeM]

Good for you Jason!!  JOe

[IronCreekArcher]

A point of clarification...I am planning a trip for whitetails to Kansas this fall and my set-up is going to be my 49 lb Black Widow recurve shooting the Easton In-Fused Axis arrow with the finish hunting weight to be determined as I have not tuned the shafts yet.  Maybe this will help with the recommendations...keep'em coming guys lots of good info...

[RC]

One thing that I did not mention is that all of Johns animals with the exception of two deer were killed on the ground. Shooting downward at close range would honestly make me lean towards the Woodsman. The Phantom does cut big but with low poundage and a close downward shot I`d shoot something with a more promising chance of an exit hole.
  Confusing you yet?RC

[Guru]

Robert, Your experience shows here in every post....good advice bud    

[Chris Surtees]

Having shot both these I will say that IMO it is all a matter of personal choice. I have killed hogs and deer each type of head and both put the animals down in quick order.

They are easy to sharpen if needed and when needed. Both are strong heads that are well designed. To be honest I carry both in my quiver at the same time. For me they fly the same and I have not heard any noticeable noise difference between the two in flight but then again I do not hear very well anymore.

End state is both heads kill equally well so go with the one you have confidence in or better yet put a listing in the classifieds and try to get a couple of each to work with.

Best of luck on your hunt.

[IronCreekArcher]

Robert...getting a little confusing...I was hoping for a more concise response but I guess its par for the course as with anything gear related.  I am leaning towards the Woodsman but the the fact that the Phantom has more slash factor is apealing...but then again that means nothing without penetration.  I hear they are easy to resharpen but that seems unlikely considering they are made from hard stainless steel.  Any other suggestions other than the Woodsman for a good multiple blade broadhead for deer from treestands with lower poundage gear?  Also, considering the lighter grains per inch of the Axis arrows I am probably going to need a broadhead weight around 200 grains to end up with the finished hunting weight I am looking for...now with all that being said whatcha got for me...lol.

[RC]

I don`t get to hunt those big bodied deer you Northern guys do and I kill 95% of my pigs on the ground.I shoot between 47-52 lbs at 27" usually with a Magnus I head .Without bleeders.I got some 125 grain snuffers I`m gonna put 100 grain adapters in with an arrow weight of about 650 grains. I`m not worried about penetration.
  If I were concerned I would stick with the two blade ,maybe a stos or big ace for the bigger whitetails But I`m sure the Woodsman will work on all but the shoulder shots.
  One thing for certain.Hunting with a stickbow succesfully must be done with confidence in both equipment and shooting.Tradbowhunters will not be at their full potential on game without both.
  Kinda like my Mom used to say about life in general and she was wise. If there is any doubt don`t do it.In this case don`t use it.RC

[Night Wing]

Both of my bows are light poundage bows as one can see in my signature. I have no problems with deer shooting a 150 grain screw-in WW broadhead. My arrows weigh 553 grains.

[Bill Carlsen]

Just to clarify....I think if you shoot either Phantoms or Woodsmans it won't matter a twit as long as you can get them really sharp and they shoot straight. Having said that, I only "stood up" for the four blade Phantom  because there seems to be a belief among many trad  bow hunters that a light weight bow requires a single blade head. My personal experience does not coincide with that belief. The major issues in determining which bh you should use is how sharp you can get them and how accurately you can shoot them.
As for Phantoms being "dull" out of the package, I would say that if you hunt with a broadhead on an arrow right out of the package that you have not shot to see if it shoots straight (which means that  you would need to sharpen it after the practice shooting is over) is a big mistake. I always shoot the bhs I will actually hunt with to make sure they shoot where I am looking and then resharpen them before I put them back in the quiver.

[waknstak IL]

I shot the phantom 125s this year with very good results. 2 complete pass thrus  with my 51 lb longbow.( both were mature does) I am shooting 3355 GTs with 100 grain brass inserts up front.  I can also get em sharp with my KME sharpner easily as well. Still hoping to test them out on one of the big boys this last week of the season.

[IronCreekArcher]

Anyone else out there wanna comment on the effectiveness or their experience with the two heads stated in the thread title?