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Author Topic: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???  (Read 1040 times)

Offline jonsimoneau

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2009, 01:14:00 AM »
This season, I saw one of the biggest 4x4 bucks I have ever seen.  I don't know if my friends believe me or not but he was OVER 160 inches and just a clean 4x4. No stickers.  I had time to look at him in the binos.  He was quartering away from me out of range and I snort wheezed.  He turned on a dime, but hung up in a patch of thick stuff and facing me. He was looking for a deer that he did not see.  He eventually turned and again started walking away, and I called again.  He did the same thing...hung up and then vanished into thin air. AWESOME.  The next day, I saw the same buck beat the tar out of a 130 class 5x5.  The 4x4 was making a noise I had never heard before, but one that I have heard of people talking about.  It could best be described as a fairly long and drawn out growl!!!  Good times.  Shortly thereafter, my fiance wanted to sit in a tree with me.  I hung another stand in the same tree.  A little 4x3 followed the same path as the monster 4x4 did the day before.  I wheezed to him and he came in on a string with his hackles up like he was really something!  I looked over and smiled at Lisa and she said "shoot him!"  I let him go.  I was surprised to hear her say that because she said she wanted to sit in a tree with me but did not want so see me shoot one.  It was a great day and my fiance was really enjoying herself.  She told me that at first she thought I was coughing and that I was going to scare the buck.  I told her I called him in on purpose and she looked at me like I was crocodile Dundee or something! I just acted like I do that all the time!  The joke is on her. Fun was had by all!

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2009, 01:22:00 AM »
By the way guys.  The wheeze call is being marketed like crazy now.  I'm pretty sure I had heard Barry and Gene talk about it way before I had seen it on TV.  This is just another example of whitetail knowledge that they passed on to other passionate bowhunters before anyone else really knew about it.  BUT! While almost everything they say works...DO NOT fletch your arrow on both ends! I tried it this year and it hurt!   Don't try that one at home!

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2009, 08:40:00 AM »
It’s best to practice the wheeze-call in front of a mirror. If the glass is splattered with a lot of spit, then you are doing it right! For me it works best when the bucks are 60 to 70 yards away. If I try to turn one that is going away or in the thick brush that is less than 25 yards, the initial burst seems to startle them. It might be that the bucks in my area are just a little edgier than those the Wensel’s are hunting. :>)
As in the case for daylight scrape activity and many other whitetail traits, they work best on undisturbed deer. The buck on the left in my Avatar was taken as the result of a wheeze.Mike

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2009, 01:31:00 PM »
There is no question in my mind the wheeze is the deadliest call in the woods for mature bucks. Guys need to understand when it works best.. and when not to use it. As Mike said, if the buck is TOO close when he initially hears it, the close proximity of a challenge call will startle him. Your volume is relevant to the distance involved. They will hear your wheeze a lot farther than you expect them to. If he's walking in dry leaves try to time it for when he stops. Or time it when the wind dies down on a noisey day. Same goes if it's an immature buck. He might run off because he's immature. If it's a mature buck tending a doe he'll be less likely to respond/leave her. But in the right situation, with the right buck, it's absolutely deadly. BW

Offline Robert Honaker

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2009, 02:01:00 PM »
I took this deer using the snort/wheeze. Wouldn't have killed him without it.

 

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2009, 05:02:00 PM »
What happens if you blow it out your nose instead of your teeth Barry? Would it be called a " Snot Weeze" ?  :D  I believe "Biggie" is starting to rub off on us a little...

Offline Gary Logsdon

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2009, 07:03:00 PM »
I know why Gene and Barry are so good at doing the wheeeeze, PRACTICE!!!  Ever walked past their bunkhouse in the middle of the night??
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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2009, 09:37:00 PM »
What ifin you aint got no teeth   :banghead:
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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2009, 12:17:00 AM »
You then pronounce it teef....

Offline Bakes168

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2009, 10:09:00 PM »
Thanks again guys

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Offline Steve Kendrot

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2009, 10:32:00 PM »
Just make the F sound as loud as you can. Be advised that this call will scare away all but the more dominant bucks. Every smaller deer I have tried it on (and a couple nice ones) have tucked their tail and scurried or skulked away. I did have a nice buck two years ago come into range from quite a distance away. He was clearly looking for a deer and ticked off. I botched a 10 yard shot when my limb hit my climbing aid.

In my opinion, most people over use calls. You need to experiment to see when they work, but once you have an idea when to use it, (and more importantly when not to), use it sparingly. I heard a guy this fall using his grunt call during a rattling sequence. Sounded like a bunch of 13 year olds at an armpit farting contest. I don't think he'd ever heard a deer grunt before. I believe deer will get wise to improperly used calls, particularly commercial calls.

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Re: Wheeze grunt in Primal Dreams???
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2009, 10:49:00 PM »
Absolutely right on Steve. bw

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