Author Topic: This is a weak arrow....Correct? (Read 373 times)

Matty · « **on:** February 14, 2009, 09:51:00 PM »

Trying to get my 5575's to get heavier So I have 100 Gr inserts and 175Gr tips at attempt to get a High FOC.
Shooting My A&H ACS at 50# @ 28"
I can SEE My feathers Kicking LEFT... And My Arrows Seem to be Hitting Right At Close Range FLETCHED
I shoot RH

katman · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2009, 09:53:00 PM »

Bare shaft tune and you will know. But nock left hitting right is weak for a righty.

Matty · « **Reply #2 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:03:00 PM »

I did and they were... Should have said they are 30"
And why would My 3555's fly really well with 200 gr tips at 30"

vermonster13 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:07:00 PM »

You may be getting a false weak because of riser contact or some other issue.

longbowben · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:08:00 PM »

I dont think you have enough weight up front or enough lbs to use 5575 ,3555 are much better choice.

katman · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:08:00 PM »

Usually I find with the axis that arrows of the same length the stiffer arrow tunes well with 100gr more point weight, insert weight is the same. I also find that increasing point weight effects spine more than adding a heavier insert, so maybe that's it if you have the Al insert in the 3555.

The Great Jashu · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:22:00 PM »

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Originally posted by vermonster13:
You may be getting a false weak because of riser contact or some other issue.

That is exactly what we found last night. The arrow we were shooting "should" be right. I turned the nock to make the feathers have less contact. The next shots were like darts.

Matty · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2009, 12:13:00 AM »

Nope they Both Have Brass inserts at 100 Gr.
will Building out the riser help Use, maybe a thick piece of leather?

longbow1 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2009, 12:52:00 AM »

Building out the side plate will help if the arrows are underspined. 5575 are over spined for your bow, even at 30 inches long. Stick with the 3555, put 250gr upfront and build the sideplate out accordingly.

Molson · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2009, 09:42:00 AM »

That doesn't sound like enough weight up front to be weak from a 50 lb bow. They may be too stiff and kicking off the bow giving you the impression they are weak.

Longbow1 has a good suggestion. You're probably going to need at least another 100 grains up front to get the 5575's to fly.

Smallwood · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2009, 09:48:00 AM »

if your nock point is too low, you will get a false read as the shaft deflects off the shelf.
try raising your nock point and see if you still get a weak shaft.

overbo · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2009, 01:52:00 PM »

I beleive your thinking is right.You are serverly underspined w/ a very high performance bow like that.I would loss the 100gr adapter and try a 200gr head.My 2 cents

Matty · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2009, 02:03:00 PM »

I agree with what you are all Saying However:
The 50# A&H ACS Spits Arrows out FASTER than My 60# bows And to HUNT with a 3555 that doesnt even weigh 500 gr.. Seems rediculous. It doesnt even meet a 10 gr per lb. minimum.

Here in Colorado I hunt Elk and Mule deer, And I'm also going on Bear quest III and I dont think the 3555 will cut it..
3D it's fine These arrows shoot Flat past 30 yds...
But on game....

Bjorn · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2009, 02:09:00 PM »

I too shoot a 50# ACS to me it sounds like you are getting a false indication as others have already suggested, especially since your 3555 are flying good.

DanDaMan · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2009, 05:16:00 PM »

If this is the same Matt I shot with on Sat, then
why dont ya just try some of the CX250s like I had ya shot on Sat at the shoot? They seemed to fly well out of your ACS. You could play with the FOC and get it to spine right and have the weight ya want. I have a few Arrow Dynamics in both Trad light and regular Trad I will let you try too. Maybe I could help ya figure out what is right for ya.
Dan

Matty · « **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2009, 09:38:00 PM »

Ya Same guy... I'm just trying to get that which I already Have to work.... Without Making another purchase. I think for target / 3D I'm going to use the 3555 with 125 gr tips seemed to fly really well and they weigh out at 525Gr.
For hunting However..... This is the problem...
I'm going to see if I can get those Grizzly Stick Sitkas to work.. If I do I should be just fine..
If not...Back to the drawing board...

Shawn Leonard · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2009, 09:06:00 AM »

525 grians is more than enough for bear,elk moose out of your 50# bow. I am going on bearquest 3 and shooting 54# bow with a 510 grain arrow and that wil be plenty. Shawn

ranger 3 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2009, 09:15:00 AM »

Matty, just for the heck of it try another 100 grains up front and see what it does that should tell you.

DanDaMan · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2009, 10:38:00 AM »

Those 4 fletch arrows you had were flying pretty good. How did they work with the 200 grain point? You could just play head weight and get it fine tuned.

If you heavy load the Sitkas you should get in the 600gr range.
Dan


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