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Author Topic: making the change to woodies??  (Read 822 times)

Offline Matty

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making the change to woodies??
« on: March 16, 2007, 12:23:00 PM »
Ok so alot of this wood arrow talk lately has stimulated me to re-try them....My thought still remain that they cant compare in strength and straightness to carbon....(setting myself up  :knothead:

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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2007, 12:25:00 PM »
I think the recommended spine for that poundage and length would be around 65-70, but if they are flying good, keep shootin em.

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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2007, 12:40:00 PM »
depends on whether "usual mark" is by sight pin or where you look. If you're a right handed shooter you should be able to increase the point weight and move them to the right too.

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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2007, 12:45:00 PM »
Don't go lower in spine.  The ones you shot are too weak.  If you get a shaft that is way under, it will hit left with feathers on it. What happens is the excessive shaft flex pulls the tail out way left on release, then the feathers straighten it out causing a hit to the left. You can bet if you shot one of those 55/60's bareshaft, it would leave the bow nearly sideways nock left.

At 29.5 bop from a center shot bow, I think I would start with at least a 65/70, although a 70/75 would probably be better.
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Offline DarkeGreen

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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2007, 12:56:00 PM »
If that is true you can go buy a 3/8 dowl and try it to see what your results are.

50/55 and 55/60 bare shaft from my center cut 55#@28" with the 50/55 showing a little weak. I bought 60/65 to mount stone heads on and with 125 grain points they where way heavy. Mine arrow are cut 29" and I draw back until the BOP bumps the riser. I'm not sure what the difference might be unless your bow is faster or cut past center, etc.

You could place with the knocking point too. Arrow will do strange things if the tail hits the shelf.

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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2007, 01:17:00 PM »
Darke,

He's drawing 29", around 62# according to his specks.  You get a wood shaft spined too far under, it'll hit left.  It hits left for a different reason than a spine too stiff hits left.
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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2007, 02:16:00 PM »
Let me explain the left...  If I'm looking at a nfaa target and my carbons would typically hit dead center (where I'm looking at the white spot) these arrows were hitting the paper at 9:00 so youre saying this is a WEAK. wood shaft at 55/60?? and I should Bump to 65/70 or 70/75? keeping them at 31".....WOW not what I would have expected to hear....

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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2007, 02:24:00 PM »
Oh and I shoot Right handed ...feathers and the bow is rather fast...............
is there a sizing chart somewhere??

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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2007, 03:25:00 PM »
Foxfire Archery (Arrows by Kelly) has a good spine chart. Search the Sponsors for them.  Figure on adding 5-10# for a high performance bow and another 5# for each inch over 28". 70/75's... That will give you a good middle of the road start.  

I can't be 100% sure your 55/60's are under based on a post.  But I'm 95% sure!  :)
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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2007, 06:09:00 PM »
I don't know much about graphites, but I think the ones you are/were shooting are probably pretty close to 75# spine, and you have more than 200 grains of point on them.  Likewise will need a heavier spined wood arrow -- 70-75# as some have already noted.

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Re: making the change to woodies??
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2007, 10:56:00 PM »
Well we spine tested everything right there my 45/60 terminators Spined high 60# at 26" which is I guess is a standard on spine testers.....I dont know if I like that but...I'm hoping many of my peers will just let me shoot their arrows I hate buying stuff just to get rid of it cause it didnt work....One of the reasons I like carbon...

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