Here's was my posting....
OK...I just got through shooting an El Grande into my targets and I was able to pull them straight out. And yes, I applied a little left pressure the next shot and they did come out a little easier. I did this 3 times each in both the 3-d and latex targets. They might have moved a 16th of an inch as when I pulled them straight out, it barely scuffed the target surface.
Like I said, I never doubted that the didn't twist to some degree in the target....but not enough for me to ever notice unless I took notice like I did today when I applied left pressure. I sure didn't count turns.
Another fellow went out and tested his Grizzlys, and had about the same results. He posted right after me.
Now I'm going to lock this on so it don't go haywire.