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Offline snag

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String travel.....
« on: April 23, 2009, 10:33:00 AM »
www.Limbsaver.com/    If you have ever wondered about using an upper AND a lower nock to keep your arrow solid on the string check this out!
Click on "Slow motion videos" then on "Archery" and then on String travel....the videos on the arrows hitting balloons is pretty cool too. I KNOW THE GUY IS SHOOTING A COMPOUND!
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Offline PICKNGRIN

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 11:02:00 AM »
That is interesting.  I wonder if nock slide is more of a problem with the shortness of the compounds and the more acute string angle they have at full draw?

Offline Zenzele

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 11:04:00 AM »
Cool video, wonde just how much trad nocks travel? Anybody got one of those fancy cameras??  :eek:   Lets see some footage... I shoot with one nocking ring and would love to know if it's worth putting another on to tighten it up??  :archer:
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Offline SpikeMaster

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 11:08:00 AM »
I've always used 2 knocking points. I would think that there would be a certain amount of nock travel with a recurve or longbow. It would be good if someone could do that type of video with a trad bow. It would be interesting also if there would be any difference between 3-under and split finger.

Offline Onehair

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 11:15:00 AM »
I am sure it travels as I have a problem keeping my bottom nock in place. I tie mine on and put super glue down first. They still move.

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 11:19:00 AM »
I think thats why we tune our bows. You don't just go with a set number and plug it in you tune your arrows and move your nock to get perfect arrow flight. The arrow slid down but remained in the same position for the rest of the shot. Still seems consistent to me.

Maybe the arrow is automatically finding its perfect take off angle?
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Offline AllenR

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2009, 12:05:00 PM »
That's a very interesting video.  It explanes several problems that I have had with my compounds.

IMHO the sliding nock is due to improperly timed cams and failure to tiller tune the bow.

Also, some compound cam designs don't have the ability to be tuned for straight & level nock travel.  The geometry simply won't allow it.

This relates to tuning nock height and tillering of our stickbows.

Like nightowl1 posted, it looks pretty consistent.  However, we all know that nocks wear out and not all of them have exactly the same grip on the string.  That would lead to inconsistent movement and poor results.

Thanks for posting that, it's very interesting.

Allen

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2009, 12:59:00 PM »
I am sure this is not as exaggerated with a stickbow. But I think it still occurs to a certain amount. I too, would love to see a slow motion of a recurve and longbow. It seems that we nock higher than the shelf so when we draw it comes in line with the shelf. But as we release the arrow nock is changing in relation to the shelf. That's when the arrow would move slightly. I don't know if it would be enough to be concerned with. I shoot 3 under and still felt the need to put a nock below. There is a lot of time that the string doesn't have fingers on it before the arrow leaves it.....?
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Offline wtpops

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2009, 06:07:00 PM »
I shoot 3 under and that is the main reason i use 2 nock points. I could not get a bow to tune with out them.
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Offline Boneyard Bowhunter

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2009, 07:35:00 PM »
I could be wrong but it looks like the arrow is finding the center of the string angle. With the loop the string angle is where the arrow is nocked. I don't think this would happen near as much with a longer bow that is shot split finger.
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Offline UKarcher

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2009, 07:59:00 AM »
Nearly every bow is tuned with the nock point above the center point of the string, whether you shoot three finger under or split finger. Therefore every shot  will see the arrow trying to find the center of the string. Putting a second nock under the arrow makes a lot of sense.

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Re: String travel.....
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2009, 10:06:00 AM »
Well said UK, I believe what you say is true.
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