Well, I have known Joe and Ms. Becky for years. I went to the shop often, helped out with some shows and even shot with becky twice and hog hunted with Joe twice. They are great people, great ambassador's to our sport. Long before Joe made the "doin the twist" DVD, he took the time to teach me his method of making the flemish string. I consider myself quite fortunate to known, learn and have them as friends. There retirement is much earned. Know they can relax and even shoot some the great shoot's they help make super for all of us.