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Offline wolfshadow

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elk calls
« on: May 25, 2009, 08:36:00 AM »
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Can any of you experienced elk hunters give me some advice on elk calls to be used in Colorado bowhunting the 3rd week of September 2009?  Is there a good package of cow, calve, and bull calls. I've noticed Primos and Knight & Hale all produce some kits.  Any tips?

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Re: elk calls
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2009, 09:14:00 AM »
http://www.elknut.com/  

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Re: elk calls
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2009, 09:40:00 AM »
fatman beat me to it.  Elknut carrys some of the best calls I have ever used - especially his diaphram calls.  If you can learn to use a mouth diaphram you will be far ahead.  Takes some practice, but IMO produces the best sounding and widest variety of calls that you can get.
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Re: elk calls
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2009, 12:09:00 PM »
Elknut has great calls/how to videos and he and his son shoot traditional, so he is a great guy!
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Re: elk calls
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2009, 12:35:00 PM »
i use the triple brown by wayne carlton for light cow,calf and light squeeling bull and the hoochie momma which is a very effective cow call.the hoochie is great because you can put it behind your back calling away from yourself in various positions and sound like several different cows at the same time.this helps you get the bull to go by instead of just to you.my bugle is a secret that i made and someday will be on the market i hope.my recommendation for a good bugle that is very easy to operate is the power bugle,you can slide the band back and forth to sound like different bulls,i used the power bugle for 8-9 years with great results.
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Re: elk calls
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2009, 01:03:00 PM »
I agree with Dave re little calling.  Keep in mind, too, that you'll be sharing the woods with muzzleloaders the third week in September.  That means more folks, in some places a lot more folks, in the woods to get the critters jumpy.  Hunting further from the roads, at least 2 miles and 3-4 miles or more even better, will be the most productive thing you can do, IMO.  Good luck.

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Re: elk calls
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2009, 01:48:00 PM »
while i agree with the little calling in some ways it is only bad if you get busted by the elk.calling imho is the most effective means of locating and keeping tabs on an elk other than visually.elk are very vocal and are continuously mewing back and forth to keep track of each other,warn of danger etc.you just need to learn what call when.theres been a lot of talk about overcalling.i will absolutely pour it on if a bull likes it,if he responds well to it then by all means give him what he likes.some dont agree but at 85% success i'd say calling a lot has its place.my two cents
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Offline Nate Fikkert

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Re: elk calls
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2009, 02:00:00 PM »
I have really come to like the Quaker Boy series of diaphrams.  The royal bull and the herd bull are the two I like.  They are white.  The Royal Bull is a triple reed call and it really produces a high shrill scream.  I do have trouble making cow calls with that diaphram and find the double reed herd bull better for all around calling.  I would stay away from the Hoochie Mama, just about everyone has been using that call across the west for the past few years and I am convinced many elk know it means HUNTER!  I really like my Sceery calls for cow calling, you can make a wide variety of cow calls on them and they don't have to all sound the same.  I think variety is very important when calling.  You don't always have to be "perfect" either.  I have heard the real thing make some really bad cow calls.

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Offline Bill Kissner

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Re: elk calls
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2009, 05:01:00 PM »
First, I want to say I am too old and fat to backpack far away from civilization to hunt elk so my opinions are from hunting the elk most people hunt, those that see more people.
I gotta agree with Dave. In the earlier days before everybody had a call in their hand it was fairly easy to call in multiple bulls a day. Nowadays a few bulls will answer a call as long as he feels a safe distance away. Very few will willingly come to a call of any kind. The reasons for this has been too many people calling and the bulls are skeptical to say the least. I only use a call to locate them and then put it away because I have had the experience of them going the wrong direction, no matter what sexy cow I am trying to imitate.   :)
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Re: elk calls
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2009, 10:34:00 PM »
I like the Sceery standard call.  Diaphragm calls don't work for me due to a very high palate.  Bugling has rarely worked for me so I don't even carry a bugle anymore unless I'm going into a remote area.  If you can master a diaphragm, go for it, plenty of good ones out there.  If you go with a "duck call" style, be sure to practice shooting with it hanging from your neck, tucking it into a chest pocket or into your shirt is a good idea so you don't get it wrapped up in your string at the shot.  Good luck on your elk hunt!   :archer:

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Re: elk calls
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 09:23:00 AM »
http://stores.elknut.com/Categories.bok?category=Elk+Calls%2C+etc

   Gary, yes we do carry a Kit called the Chuckler Kit on our Site, the link above will show it to you. It comes with a Grunt Tube Bugle, one hour DVD Mastering The Mouth Reed, 2 mouth diaphragm elk calls. It's a very good Kit for both the beginner or veteran elk caller. The mouth reeds that come with it are a very soft & user friendly latex. As a beginner you will need this type of call so you can see quick progress in your calling practice. You need to start with a single reed call that's provided. You do not want to start with double & triple reed calls as they are very tough to learn on & are for more experienced callers that have their tongue muscles built up for that heavier tension. You will be easily frustrated if you do so!
    The DVD will take you in detail how to correctly use the mouth reeds & how to make a good number of both Bull & Cow sounds alike. We also offer that same Kit in an XTR version, meaning it's available with an External Reed built in Reed for those that have a tough time using mouth calls. If interested on what either of these Chuckler Bugles sound like here's a short Video Clip on what you can expect from them. There's also a clip on the Mouth Reed DVD there too.
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   As far as the use of Elk Calls go in the area you're hunting you always need to go prepared & ready to use both cow sounds & bull sounds when needed. OTC general season hunts or private lands makes no difference in what you take with you. It's all in knowing when to use what sound so you "fit in" to a present encounter. More importantly, you only need to master aprox 6 sounds & this is easily done in a short time. These sounds can be used or adapted to about any encounter, the trick is to use the right sound at the right time to avoid unnecessary hang-ups. Your most important elk knowledge will come into play when it's time to identify a particular sound. It's not how many sounds you know to imitate it's how many can you hear & understand.
   When you can do this you now can identify a situation & approach it with confidence & know what the elk are asking for or wanting instead of just thinking that there's elk over there! You want to identify the sound & situation at hand & act accordingly. Sometimes sounds on your part are needed & other encounters do not require sounds just good stealthiness.
   I personally would not hunt elk without having the right tools. I carry both a Bugle & Reeds, I can make nearly any elk sound with these. With all the bulls we've taken 90% have fallen to bull sounds. Like any elk sound "timing" is everything! Bulls & cows alike can be communicated with regardless of area hunted. Use sounds they expect to hear under varying situations & you will experience far less hangups or have the frame of mind that the elk are call shy. Elk can & are call shy to callers who have no idea what they're saying in their efforts to talk to elk, most hunters will throw out an elk sound because they heard an elk or are trying to get elk to come their way by use of cow calling. Elk can get very wise to this quickly whether it's from a bugle or cow call especially on heavily hunted areas. It's up to us as hunters to educate ourselves & not the elk & be the best we can be when in the elks environment! We must "fit in" not stick out & cause reason for alarm! Good Luck!

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Re: elk calls
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2009, 01:00:00 AM »
I have seen a whole bunch of different calls become popular one season and everybody has one and then next year something else. Most of them sound good to the caller, but after hearing the same thing all over the woods the elk get "educated" Last year I used a Mac-daddy and instead of using it like 100 other idiots out there I made cow calls so soft I almost couldnt hear them and pulled a nice 7X6 away from his cows to 20 yards to find that sweet-thing talking softly.
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