"slowbowke, do you more often than not achieve pass thru's shooting the 160gr snuffer"
I guess I WASN'T clear on that. I mean head only and also meant any more than the head going through was unimportant TO ME, others think differently of course.
If good and sharp youll not have a problem taking deer cleanly and quickly with any legal set up that shoots an arrow well with them.
Ive only seen one deer taken with a Snuffer, sharpened by me or my buddy, go 50 yards, shot placement and head sharpness have more to do with how fast they go down than the type of head.....that said, I still have LOTS of faith in a well placed Snuffer taking them down NOW!
The exception was a bad shot hitting quartering back taking out the liver and innards, found 120 yards away the next morning.
Just my 2 cents.
An interesting thought too....about 20 (30?? YIKES) years ago these discussions were debating IF they wanted the head to go through, AT ALL...let alone a "pass through".
Some did, and still do prefer a head that stays in the animal doing more damage as it runs but I personally cant tell the difference but prefer an exit hole for a more quickly produced blood trail JUST IN CASE.
Better than half the time, I see the deer go down if I'm in a tree. On the ground, losing sight of them is pretty easy but with a sharp head, I have no trouble with blood trails using either head but do think the Snuffer shot ones go down faster.......so far LOL for me and while I prefer the lines of the old Bear, I do have a snuffer on me if I end up hunting in some "monsoon" due strictly to how fast Ive seen em go down on the average.
There can always be exceptions. Any deer on its "toes" so to speak, cause he knows something is "UP"....tends to run further, I think, than one that has no clue.
Some of my best memories are ones I shot that hopped a few yards looking around......then "kerplunk"....down they go, some literally steps from where shot.
Im going to stick my neck out here showing HOW MUCH I believe in a good sharp head's efficiency.
I dont shoot far and always see my arrow hit barring any problems. THE ONLY TIME, I wait more than a minute or so to follow is strictly if it WAS a less than good hit.
If I see the arrow hit where I wanted, that deer is on the ground in less than 20 seconds, some of which I could see and normally it's less than 10 seconds.
No I don't run after them and know I CAN be wrong so I mark where I saw them last, VERY WELL, an start at where they were hit easing slowly in their direction with my eyes open for blood AND movement.
Only the bad hit ones,(flinch) took more than a few minutes to find and those werent started till hours later.
I dislike doing that SO much that I've passed up some awful nice deer when I wasn't 110 percent sure there wasnt a branch inbetween us in low light.
Keep em sharp and shoot em well. There are MANY great heads out there that will do all you want.
This is only my experience with the Old Bear heads and Snuffers I use now. Magnus and Zwickey two blades are heads that never left me wanting either. As I've aged the old Bear has become a piece of my soul that wont let go is all.
Not a heavy head, and while it works well unweighted, I find much better flight with some added weight and a higher FOC.
As I said in my previous post, TODAY.. 42-48lb bows are "light weight".....in the 60s it was the NORM without anyone feeling they needed more, feeling they were disadvantaged nor having ANY CLUE how fast their set up was.......or caring. I haven't a clue how "fast" my arrows go out of any of my bows.
To make my point, I've a 1956-57 Ben Pearson cat. number 950, in a "take apart" at the handle that has plans this fall.
Regardless of the younger members in my family ribbing me.....none of em are willing to place any bets against the "ol man" and his "old bow" not doing quite well.
I don't feel "under gunned" at all and truly wish I had stayed with 45-50lbs bow all my life. I MISSED some dandies shooting 70plus lb bows that I thought "had an advantage".which they do but not in MY hands.
Those deer haven't gotten any tougher than they were decades ago and we have LOTS more of them, making a close shot more possible.
OUR attitude is what has changed.
I'm NOT positive but am told Fred Eichler used his 54lb recurve on that honker AK Yukon moose that went down in about 60 yards.
Unless I misunderstood, the shot hit quartering forward and didnt exit. If you watched the film on TV.....you know how fast that huge thing went down.
Do a aize of animal and bow weight comparison there using that and your bow weight and a deer.
You've NO reason to worry, at all, IMHO.