Tick Repellant

[Ray Hammond]

Scott S

What good will flea and tick collars do if they come through the neck of your shirt or up your sleeve, or around your waistband?

Go buy Permanone, spray all of your waistband area, cuffs, leg bottoms, and the sleeves and neck area of your shirt - let it dry.

That's the best defense.

I'm right now on a two week regimen of antibiotics that are big enough to choke a horse from a tick bite.

Those pills cost my insurance company and me a whole lot more than a spray can of permanone.

[PGHKEN]

Tractor Supply Co. sells Gordon's Permethrin-10 Livestock and Premise Spray. It is concentrated insecticide that is 10% permethrin and 90% inert ingredients. A 32 OZ. bottle is $17.99. One oz. of concentrate mixed with 19 ozs. of water yields 20 ozs. of 0.5% solution (same as Permanone and Sawyers). Solution can be used with garden sprayer or spray bottle to dampen clothes, tents, and premises around camp. Allow to dry as with others. Concentrations can be varied for stronger solutions, but 0.5% should be maximum for clothing.Very economical and effective.

[Shifting Shadow]

Thanks everyone for the great info. Here, in North Dakota, there are many ticks, but I have heard of few cases of Lyme, at least in my area. However, one year my older daughter accompanied me scouting for whitetail and she ended up with 200 ticks. That was awful. Have you ever observed whitetail in a high tick area? It's not a pretty sight.

[JL]

Like others have said, ticks are no joke. I was diagnosed with late stage Lyme this past Monday. I have an appointment with a neousurgon this coming Monday and he will probably want to do a spinal tap to get a pure/true reading of the extent of infection in my body. Then the treatments start...

Be very aware of Lyme symtoms and get tested if you develop them. If left untreated (like in my case), it can be hard on you to fully recover.

JL

[James Wrenn]

The problem with useing permethrin designed for livestock on clothes is the inert stuff it is mixed with.The kind mixed with stuff made for clothes is formulated for high absorption and made not to wash out of common materials in clothing.The other stuff will not stay in the clothing as long.It is cheap and will work but will have to be re-applied much more often.Depending on the brand and it's use some have a smell to it even when dry.The kind for clothes has no smell after it drys. jmo

[Ray Hammond]

The other thing to remember is there are a lot of other VERY NASTY things you can get from ticks besides Lymes - Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, Bell's Palsy come to mind...I'm certain there are more.

My physician told me that right now 80% of all infections coming into North Metro Atlanta hospitals are MRSA- related.  That is a FLESH-EATING infection...very very nasty..it can KILL YOU.  You get bitten, the bite doesn't heal well, and you walk past someone carrying the MRSA on them- yes- it transmits from human to human very easily- and before you know it your skin and muscle tissue is being consumed.

Don't play with ticks.

[Ray Hammond]

Getting the right treatment for the MRSA virus is vital when you recognize it. But before the situation becomes more worse than it should be, its important to know the symptoms of the MRSA virus. When you are able to successfully get the virus diagnosed, then the treatments to cure it should be of the foremost importance.

The mrsa infection can lead to larger issues later on so its important to be timely. The following will provide detailed  MRSA virus symptoms so in case you should encounter it at a local gym or some other facility, you will know how to treat the mrsa quickly to avoid other more serious heath issues.

Once you have read these symptoms, if you believe that you have MRSA we urge you to contact your doctor right away so that you can receive a thorough diagnosis and get treated immediately.

The first MRSA symptom you will notice is inflamed skin. It may look very harmless but could be a precursor to an MRSA infection. These small patches of rashes can grow and spread to other parts of the body, so attention should be given to keep an eye on their results. These persistent rashes should be looked at by a dermatologist first.

The second MRSA symptom is cellulites. Besides causing a staph infection to attack the body, the Cellulitis infection is not a staph infection, but just a simple infection which causes inflamed skin. The result is that a person can become very sick and not even realize what they have.

The third thing that an MRSA infection can cause, is bumps or masses that grow on the body. These too can be very painful, and at this point it is very urgent for someone to go and get it checked out by a doctor. They can then grow and turn into a pus type color. Mny times these will not go away on their own. They may have to be surgically removed.

The bottom line is that knowing the MRSA sympoms and dealing with them properly can save your life. Having a staff infection can be a really horrible thing, but if taken care of it can be overcome and a person can live a normal life again.

[James Wrenn]

My sister has been helping out part time at a small local hospital.She said right now 50% of the people coming in was for tick related illness.Lot's of spotted fever and lyme.For some reason this is a really bad year of it around here.Much better to be safe than sorry.

[Kevin Dill]

I use the Permanone product sold in many locations and stores. Spray clothing several hours before use, and let dry...then store them in a plastic bag until wearing. At the truck we duct tape our ankles, then spray DEET on our legs and around our waistline. Very few bugs are bad enough to get past this defense.

I've never had a reaction to the products, but...I sometimes wake up at night lying on my back, and my arms & legs are waving in slow motion.

Kevin Dill

[NorthernCaliforniaHunter]

Originally posted by Kevin Dill:
I use the Permanone product sold in many locations and stores. Spray clothing several hours before use, and let dry...then store them in a plastic bag until wearing. At the truck we duct tape our ankles, then spray DEET on our legs and around our waistline. Very few bugs are bad enough to get past this defense.

I've never had a reaction to the products, but...I sometimes wake up at night lying on my back, and my arms & legs are waving in slow motion.

Kevin Dill

         
Are you sure that's not from some other "juice"?

[Bullfrog 1]

Anyone try the Buzz Off clothing sold that has the Permethin treatment on it. Supposed to last for 70 washings.   BILL

[Jeremy]

Need to clear up something Ray posted so as not to spread panic    

MRSA is a bacterial infection that's resistent to many common antibiotics.  It's caused by the bacteria staphylococcus aureus.  Most of these infections aren't serious, most aren't even noticed, but some can be life threatening.  These infections are very common and are transmitted by direct contact.

The "flesh eating" bateria is a completely different bug, usually Streptococcus pyogenes, but also Vibrio vulnificus from handling sea animals.  This type of infection is very rare and can only be spread by extremely close contact.

Back to the topic at hand.
Ticks aren't to be taken lightly.  Lyme disease can be a nasty thing if it's not treated immediately, and there are plenty of other things that ticks can carry that can/will knock you on your butt.

 

I'm a few minutes from Lyme, CT... right in that solid blue area.  I normally know at least one person, year round, being treated for Lyme disease.  The best prevention in my mind is just checking yourself over thoroughly after coming inside.  

Tick's usually wander around your body for a few hours before finding a good place to have a meal.  That gives you lots of time to find the little bas**rds.  Transmission of most of the nasty things they carry is rare until they've been attached for a few hours, so that gives you even more time.

[Jeremy]

Forgot to mention, the tick repellents may work, but you can't prove it by me.  I see no difference in the number of the blood sucking bas***ds I pick off, but the things are so thick near me that may not mean much.

[frank the hunter]

has anyone tryed har-son rynoskin.

[StickBowManMI]

Permanone works great and I used it deer hunting in New York in areas that were infested with Ticks. Never had a problem getting close to a deer with it on my clothes. I sprayed my hunting clothes about a week before using and then hung them out in the breeze. It sure works on the ticks. The areas that I hunted were all public land and they were really infested with ticks. I would rather be safe than sorry.

[scarecrow]

Guys for years I have used corn starch with great success. I pour it in a sock. Fill the sock about half up to the heel. Then I just swing it and kinda pop it against me from the waste down inside and out of my clothes. Hit your boots and socks really good. Then slip the sock in a baggy and into your fanny pack for use later. Works for us in East, West and South Texas.

[bswear]

Coulston's Duranon is the absolute best product.  However, it is hard to find here in Ohio.  Anyone have a link to a site that sells it?

[NorthernCaliforniaHunter]

I bought the Sawyer's yesterday... Between it and my new ThermaCell I didn't get a single bug bite!! It's too good to be true!

Thanks for the tip guys!

[Northwind]

I agree with Jeremy, sprayed garments do not seem to significantly reduce the number of deer ticks I collect while out in the woods.

In tick infested areas, I would recommend a second layer of protection (beyond permethrin based sprays)to help prevent ticks from attaching to You.

I've had good success with rynoskin over the years. I've even worn oversized pantyhose as an added layer of protection...not the most comfortable or durable as rynoskin, but effective.

Ticks generally like dark areas, i.e., you will typically find more of them in the woods under a full foliage canopy vs. in an open soy bean field. Try to keep paths mowed/cleaned such that foliage doesn't brush against your legs as you move through the woods. This is where many nymph size ticks latch onto your leg areas.

More info on the deer tick life cycle at the following American Lyme Disease site (worth a look):

 http://www.aldf.com/deerTickEcology.shtml

[Russ Clagett]

I use powdered sulphur from the feed store, all over shoes and britches, no ticks or chiggers.