Playing Dirty Pool???

[huntindad]

Well wapiti have you ever sold a used car ? Isn't that encroaching on that sleazy used car salesman's livelihood ? Should we all just sell all things on consignment? The question isn't about guiding in another guides territory its about a taxpayer going back into public land and hunting .The land and the game on it are not owned by anyone including the guide.The product he is selling is the ability to find game on the land and specific knowledge of that game that is much more than a honey hole if it is not much more than that then he is not going to make it long.As for the man being guided he probably will need more than just coordinates to a honey hole to be a threat to any good guide.Most people wh have those other qualities to be successful will probably not use anybody elses spot to do so.I know I have been told a specific spot where a big buck lives and have refused to hunt him as I don't want to diminish the challenge of doing it on my own. BILL

[Arrowhead80]

Bill, i've heard of making it hard on yourself but dang man not taking advantage of knowing where a dig deer is doesn't make sense to me.Just because you got tipped on where he is isn't gonna make him easier to kill,you still have to get your wind right and get in the area without spooking him.On top of that big deer are harder to get into bow range because luck is always on their side.I am not a lazy hunter by any means but i take advantage of tips when i get them.Different strokes for different folks i guess but hey whatever floats your boat.

[huntindad]

I think I may have come across a little elitist on that one while trying to make a point. What I meant was I Prefer to find my own deer and if I know of one that I found and of one that I've been told about I would hunt harder and more for the one I found.I found a good blacktail one time and told a friend about him and he got out the video camera and asked if the buck in the video was him and it was.I checked on the buck a few times but didn't hunt hard for him because the whole situation was tainted by the fact that he did not feel he could tell me about the deer without me hunting him.Now I know what you are thinking and NO I did not ever give him a reason to think I would snake the deer out from under him.But I did not want him to be able to say I did by killing that buck.Our friendship will never be the same.I did not mean to say it would be less to hunt a deer that someone told me about as I have but I guess it depends on the situation.More than the challenge I guess it would be my pride that would get in my way as I wouldn't want someone going around saying "I told him right where to find that buck".I am talking about specific info not just "Yeah I saw a good buck the other day up by ...... ".As I read back I see my post is as clear as mud!But hey I know what I mean;) and it is not to say that anyones way is lazy,easy or in any way less challenging than mine.Bill

[**DONOTDELETE**]

OK.....just being honest here....I would not pull out a GPS and start marking spots. That would seem pretty lame. BUT, I would also have a hard time NOT going back to some great public land spot. It is PUBLIC.

But no, I don't think I would hire a guide in Wyoming just to steal his spots. It seems to me a good guide provides a lot more than just the hunting area.

[woodworker]

I have read several posts of so called friends sticking it to the generosity of a fellow hunter and guides that are pretty much outlaws.  I think most of us have had run-ins like we have read, the point about the guide is we are in the traditional game because we like the challenge and yes public land is public and I have no problem going back year after year in the same spot to figure the animals on my own or with a good hunting bud.  I have some spots in Idaho that I have found over the course of a few years that a biologist turned me on to, do I consider the several thousand acres of public land mine, no.  Would I show another responsible hunter the area, sure I would.  I would wish the best of luck to all I would consider sharing a camp with and those whom I do not; well it is time to start your home work.

[Lenny Stankowitz]

So let me get this straight.  When I first had my sprinkling system installed, I had no idea how to start it up in the spring.  The first year, I paid the installer 70.00 to come and turn it on and program the zones.  I paid close attention to what he did and realized it was a piece of cake.  Every year since then, I have done it myself, saving the 70.00.

That's how I learned to install a toilet, wire a room, replace a hot water heater, and install siding. (not to mention dozens of other things)

I guess I'm just an unethical slob.

  :confused:

[Arrowhead80]

I agree with ya Lenny,you can pick up on a lot if you just pay attention.