"SNUFFER" Sharpening ?

[PAPA BEAR]

does it void the warranty by puttin them to a grinder wheel steve o ?

[Steve O]

Larry, I haven't asked about the grinder. I'm not worried about it, I feel pretty safe doing it the way the guy that invented and built them does it.  

Here is a quote from Mike Sohm (the owner of Magnus) from another site:

"I believe the snuffer is very easy to sharpen, in my opinion, you take a 14 inch mill bastard file and file from the back to the tip, with medium pressure approx 15 to 20 strokes, you will feel a burr. You lay the file flat on 2 blades at once, turn over to the next two blades until you have done this on the three sets of blades or flats as I call them. You should feel a burr on the blade, next take the file and file lightly over the flats 10 strokes, very little pressure. I than go hunting with them. I shoot 57 lbs, and I always get two holes. I also have to be honest, WE DONOT RECOMMEND THE SNUFFER TAMER FILES, IT WEAKENS THE TIP AND TAKES TO MUCH MATERIAL OFF THE BACK SIDE OF THE HEAD. thank you "

Those are his caps, not mine and as I said earlier, you guys do it however you want.  It is not the ONLY way and people have been getting them razor sharp for over 30 years with nothing but a hand held file and/or stone.

And they "feel" sharper because of the more acute angle.

I'm not here to argue, just to point out the facts.

[overbo]

I've been using the Tamer for 20+ years.It's the method that gives me the best results.I've tried most methods under the sun and spent alot of money doing it.This weakening the tip thing hasn't caused any problems for me.Maybe the lighter weight snuffer (100,125) there could be issuses but the 145 and 160's have been very good for me.

[joebuck]

Steve O.."I'm not here to argue, just to point out the facts"...your suppose to be the face Man!

Rodger Grinder Wheel method.....produces a double bevel shoulder. Wheel sets one bevel and flat stone sets the final edge.

Snuffer Tamer metod.....produces one angle bevel shoulder from back to tip.

It takes a little eye to hand talent to do either very well.

[longbowben]

Maybe i should tell all 5 of my 140 class or Better Bucks that the snuffer tamer wasnt going to be strong enough. Do you think it will let them come back to life.  

[leatherneck]

"I'm not here to argue, just to point out the facts." [/QB][/QUOTE]


I can't tell. Don't let someone elses opinion get you all worked up. It's not rocket science people, it's a broadhead.

[PAPA BEAR]

thanks for the info steve o i'll try that method and see if its quicker than the tamer.......larry

[snag]

A man in our trad. club just did a talk on sharpening Snuffers. He used a horizontal belt sander to get the cutting surface even. Then he used diamond stones.

[Morning Star]

A man in our trad. club just did a talk on sharpening Snuffers. He used a horizontal belt sander to get the cutting surface even. Then he used diamond stones.

 

There lies the biggest obstical, getting the blade surfaces even.  

Once ya got that....ya got gravey.  

I've got a mostly hairless left arm, as I'm just finishing new batch of Woodsmans.  Polish those edges to mirrors....

[snag]

We came to the conclusion that they must make the Snuffers and Woodsman by grinding the edge with a wheel. This would give the edge a convex surface. When he sanded them with the belt sander the middle was the first part to get hit. Then out to the tips as metal was taken off.

[Guru]

Give me a file and my diamond hone and I'm all set      


So Ben, do the little bucks complain?  Or do you only shoot 140 class deer with Snuffers    

[longbowben]

I only shoot big bucks.About 10 years ago i looked for 125 class animals ,About 7 years ago i tryed to stay above 140 .To let the deer mature.AND no bear or any deer ever complain.And yes does are also on the list.

[SteveB]

Thanks Steve O. Tried your's and Ryan's method and was greatly impressed.

SteveB

[Guru]

No biggie Ben, just wondering what the score of a deer had to do with the sharpness of a snuffer      

Hey Steve, how's things in western NY?

[String Cutter]

On using the belt sander? is it from heel to tip Or you put it on there sideways????

[razorsharptokill]

I'd say doing them point 1st or sideways will turn the belt into a snuffer launcher.

[longbowben]

Hey guru try reading it again, its called a joke.I dont want them comming back to life.

[Guru]

Like I said, no biggie Ben, you missed my point....

Best of luck to you this fall    

[razorsharptokill]

I bought a dual water stone set. 1000 grit and 6000 grit for finishing before the stropping. Thought it would give a really smooth edge. It did... so smooth its dull. Must be doing some thing wrong.

[JC]

The blades on snuffers and woodsmans warp during the brazing process, hence the uneven blades. Big file, flat, using Charlie Lamb's method for woodsmans, finish on diamond stone, crock or arkansas if desired. Works for snuffers too.

Razor, it is possible to "over sharpen" in my opinion. I like a bit of rough edge on my 3 blades. Use a double cut file, progressively lighter strokes until you are just barely pulling the head along the file with no downward pressure. Rotate each stroke so you get even cutting. Make sure you apply even downward pressure, especially during the initial stages of the sharpening. This edge will kill any critter walking as has been proven countless times.

If you want it more finely honed, very light brushing with a croc stick or a fine stone and you are set. If you go too far with the smooth stone you may have to back to the file to get the burr up. I think this is because of the steeper angle with 3 blades. I like to work back to front since it makes the micro serrations point forward...more apt to cut as the head penetrates front to back. Your mileage may vary but it holds true in my experience.

Dang Ben, I'd never get to kill a deer...I can count on 3 fingers the # of 140 class deer I've seen here. You boys in Ohio got it going on.